2023 CFL QB wage comparison

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i’m sure agents love making salaries public :moneybag:

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There is a salary Cap
The more a player makes on the team the less there is for a teammate

well yes but that doesn’t have anything to to with reporting player salaries. it just caps how much the team can spend on them as a whole.

would be nice if the CFL significantly increased the cap.

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Well yes and I think you mean that it wouldn’t affect salaries going up but it would in fact. History shows us that with what happened in the NHL.

Players would first be able to say that Player X on Team B has similar stats to mine and therefore I am worth the same amount. It may also help prevent certain Canadian overpaid OLinemen and other players from being overpaid. Very importantly it would show players how much cap room each team has available and they wouldn’t be able to misrepresent that when arguing that they don’t have the cap space to pay more.

I’m no expert on this and there are probably even more reasons that support having open salaries for the player’s benefit. All I know is that in every league it has occurred it has resulted in a financial windfall to the players, the NHL being the example I recall best because there was such a public debate about it at the time.

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In the NHL the player contracts are gaurenteed
In the CFL, they are not,
massively huge difference

Everyone gets their salary from the public, some more direct than others…That logic applies to public servants…their salary is paid by taxes and we have no choise but to pay taxes

ANd it would increase the agents cut…No agenda there right?

You would be free to disclose your salary at anytime…unless the team said no

You have no more right to know a player salary than I have right to know yours

Sorry, I don’t see the difference

It was directed at Jon’s post comparing NHL to CFL(directly above mine)

I believe the policy in Canada is to disclose public service salaries that exceed $100,000 per annum.

The Public Sector Compensation Disclosure Act requires information about wages above a legislated compensation threshold to be publicly disclosed for public sector employees. It is published annually and has been published on the government’s proactive disclosure website since 2020.

Idon’t see the difference either. The purpose of knowing the salary of others is to increase your salary, not to make your ciontract guaranteed in a league without guaranteed contracts.

More on guaranteed contracts below.

I thought this was about disclosing player salaries by 3 down
NHL has a hard cap and gaurenteed contracts and 50% of hockey related revenue goes to the players
The CFL has a soft cap and zero gaurenteed money

I understand that, what I am saying is I don’t see why it would be ok to disclose a guaranteed contract and not an unguaranteed one

I agree, But, It’s nice to find out,

To be honest, I don’t care what they make…but I also don’t think its anyone’s business

Another horror story from the land of guaranteed contracts. The Giants will be paying former best pitcher in the world Baumgartner $34 million million not to play or to play for another team. It's not like the players who can't perform any longer ever say you don't have to pay me now that I'm playing like crap and can't hold up my end of the bargain.

Thankfully baseball is the league this happens in the most. Suspended accused sexual offender Bauer recently got tens of millions not to play for the Dodgers as well. I can see this happening to some extent in the NFL as they start to hand out some guarantees and Deshaun Watson is a likely candidate.

Guaranteed contracts would cripple the CFL with players that no longer can perform but still must be fit into the relatively low salary cap.

Players should get guaranteed contracts when the rest of society including myself gets a guaranteed contract or job. In other words never.

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I think the solution to that is a low hard-money guarantee with a bunch of incentive-based soft money.

It’s not ideal, either, but at least it gets players some guarantee while protecting teams from being crippled under the cap by the issues you mentioned above. (For related example, see Riders, Saskatchewan, 2022 coaching and staff issues)

You could go that far but a huge stretch. Lawyers and accountants, for example, that work in private firms don’t earn their money from the public but rather have private contracts that have no relationship to what the rest of the public is doing. Pro athletes rely on public viewership both in person and on TV. The private sector does not. There is also usually no taxpayer dollars used to construct thjeir place of work. A considerable difference I would say.

Huh? So get a million more and give the agent $150,000. What’s not to like. It’s called capitalism. That’s how they earn their living. Just like a real estate agent, car salesman, lawyer or accountant. Commission. If you don’t like it you can represent yourself. Ask Lamar Jackson how that’s going so far.

The whole point is that all salaries need to be disclosed to have the best possible effect for the players. Disclosing isolated salaries is of minimal value.

Sure they do…they work for a private company who provides a service or product to the general public,The public pays for the service…LIke I said everyone pays for everyone, its ust a matter of degree

The point is, who’s best interest is the agent fighting for? The player or himself?

Then that logic should apply to everyone? If its good for a ball player, its good for a lawyer? Are you willing to disclose your salary

But ok…
Lets say you are right that the players knowing each others salary is better for them.
Disclose it internally…
Then WR can bargain with the team for a better salary…
The public still does not need to know

No. It’s a private business. Many law firms are specialized. Patent and trademark agents would deal with less than .00001% of the public I expect. All lawyer/client relationships are voluntary and private in a private firm. As I said, it would be a real stretch to attribute a public nature to most private businesses.

Clearly both. That is the basis behind any incentivized system.

Most lawyers are in a private business as explained above so the same considerations don’t apply as do to a public business. I can also tell you that most lawyers share their salaries among their peers, especially youger lawyers, for the same reasons it is good for athletes. They all want to make sure they aren’t getting stiffed by their employer. Long gone are the days of Stafford Smythe telling you that this is what you are making, I don’t care what anyone else makes and if you don’t like it you won’t play this year.