2015 Canadian QBs (New Year New Thread)

It is not so much they are better, as it is the numbers.

How many schools in the US ?
How many schools / jr football in Canada ?

It is quantity more than quality.

Take the BEST Canadian QB, University or JR Football.
Let's say he is the winner of the Vanier Cup or Canadian JR Bowl.

For the point of issue, we will say he is the best of 50 Canadian QB's.
Just compare him to the literal multiple hundreds of US QB,s.

He would most likely only fit into the bottom 1/3 rd if lucky.

I hope to see it someday, just do not think it will.

Yes I know. Thats why I have asked if there is any news or why they would still hold on to his rights. It is not as though someone would trade for his rights.

Well the Argo's have a chance to get it started. The Argo's are the second team in which he had had a tryour with.
Shutter is the one Canadian QB that has had the advatages that are spoken about for QBs in the US. More games, More parctice, more time on everything.

I agree that the numbers make the biggest difference. There are just so many more US QBs. Popuation colleges, HS.
I do say yes if a Canadian QB was better he would be on a roster. Its more likely there have not been any that have been that much better.
Now even tougher. Since the inception of the PR as it stands today. There are more men who have spent 3 or so years in the NFL before even coming to CFL. QBs coming out of the CIS are still just boys

the et or rouge are all like 30 years old... whatcha talkin bout willis?

Sorry, what ?

30 year old college kids ?????????

with the schooling system in quebec with a level between HS and Univesity makes them older. Befor the 5-7 teams were plucking Junipor players after 5 years than 5 more in the CIS.
But a 25-26 year old playing 3 years in pro football and not at the CIS Univeristy level Makes a big difference.
CIS now capping an age limit Im not sure that Q olayers would get a 5th year

Canadian QBs are usually invited to CFL camps to throw the balls to receivers, they are usually ignored by coaches.
In this case, Yantz may get some interest:

[url=http://www.ottawasun.com/2015/03/26/manitoba-quarterback-jordan-yantz-hopes-to-earn-cfl-shot]http://www.ottawasun.com/2015/03/26/man ... n-cfl-shot[/url]

Not to be forgotten in all this is that Yantz was in BC Lions camp from start to finish before his Final season with the VI Raiders BCFC. Buono big on Junior football chose Yantz instead of Billy Greene Hec winner. Yantz roomed and tied to the hip with formere VI Raider turned star CFL RB Andrew Harris at Camp. Incuding fully involved in meeteings with Lulay and a ypunger Reilly at the time.
Making Yantz and Shutter a bit different than those before them. Going through a process to get on a CFL roster a first time. Then using 2 more years of eligible play in CIS and now are coming in for round two.

Shutter reportedly mpressed at Argo's tryout. Anyone here anything on him and the Argo's?

He won't be with the Argos anytime soon:

Cayman Shutter retweeted Allied Sports @allied_sports · Mar 25

Congrats to our client QB @cshutter who just signed w/ Nimes Centurions of France's Elite 1st Division. Au revoir!
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"brihind88" What it will take is for a Canadian to WIN the job. It will happen some day. pretty difficult to win the job without a fair opportunity to compete or be added to the roster when NCAA prospects get first dibs. It is not so much they are better, as it is the numbers. How many schools in the US ? How many schools / jr football in Canada ? It is quantity more than quality.

Take the BEST Canadian QB, University or JR Football.
Let’s say he is the winner of the Vanier Cup or Canadian JR Bowl.

For the point of issue, we will say he is the best of 50 Canadian QB’s.
Just compare him to the literal multiple hundreds of US QB,s.
He would most likely only fit into the bottom 1/3 rd if lucky.
I hope to see it someday, just do not think it will


It is because they are better, not because of numbers. Nothing to do with “NCAA QBs get first dibs” that is ridiculous.
The NCAA QBs play at a much higher calibre, a much longer and intense training regime, where they train all winter and play more games with tougher competition than the CIS. And this shows during the CFL camps. We have Canadian coaches and assistant coaches in the CFL and Canadian owners so it’s not like there is some type of conspiracy against the CIS QB.
It’s a matter of experience and performing in the training camp.

The NCAA QB will face defenses with players faster and much stronger than any defenses a CIS QB will face. The NCAA QB has faced the faster strong defenses since junior high. CFL coaches/assistant coaches will tell you that the CIS QBs may be able to throw the ball and rack up some yardage playing against CIS defenses but when they come to a CFL camp and have an ex-NFLer or NCAA guy in their face it’s a totally different world. They just don’t have the ability or experience that the NCAA trained QBs have.
Right now there are a couple of Canadian QBs playing in the NCAA they were recruited out of Canadian high schools, they are the cream of the crop, their talent was spotted by NCAA scouts. One of them is O’brien out of Ottawa who was recruited as a freshman to Penn State, I think I read that he’s switched schools for this season. He’s playing in the NCAA because he was spotted as a QB talent in high school and he’s earning his ticket at the highest level possible.
The QB position is one position that we should never be allowed to designate as a national, that is a position that must be earned.

NCAA QBs may be more talented at playing the position but are they the most talented at playing the CFL version of football? The CFL has chewed up and spit out a lot of top tier NCAA QBs who couldn't play effectively up here. What the NCAA has is volume and tons of coaching with player that have been in the game a lot longer. The volume and the experience give them a leg up.

But bottom line is that the Canadians are becoming more capable at playing QB, which is why there are more showing up on NCAA rosters. I think it becomes more realistic that we'll see a QB with a Canadian passport play in the CFL in the next 10-15 years but they will come from the NCAA ranks, perhaps Brandon Bridge. Part of the problem is that the home grown QBs enter the professional part of their careers developmentally behind the NCAA guys, but even if they are extremely good CIS QBs, the perception will probably always exist that they aren't as capable because they came from the CIS ranks. It sounded like there were some people at the combine who were impressed with the balls Jordan Yantz threw in the receiver-DB one on ones, so hopefully it works out for him and he gets an invite somewhere as a QB.

Canadians are becoming more capable at playing QB, here is another one - Brandon Bridge, he has come out of the NCAA and if he doesn't make the NFL he may become the best Canadian prospect to play in the CFL. The Canadians playing QB in the NCAA have punched their tickets, no short cut for this guy because of his nationality. The Canadian QB coming out of the NCAA has the experience playing against the bigger, faster better trained defenses, they have had more playing time and a much longer season than a CIS QB. They are better coached and spend almost 12 months under supervised training.
Yantz may have looked good at throwing the deep ball but the question will be how can he handle the pressure from the ex-NFLers and NCAA guys in the CFL. Yantz would never have seen that type of pressure.

[url=http://www.ottawasun.com/2015/03/30/mississaugas-brandon-bridge-takes-another-step-closer-to-nfl-dream]http://www.ottawasun.com/2015/03/30/mis ... -nfl-dream[/url]

Two more Canadian QBs playing in the NCAA, recruited out of high school.

http://canada.nfl.com/2014/01/14/canadians-in-the-ncaa/

QB are not part of the ratio

We the fans are ignorant and are sheep!!!! Yup that includes myself

You add the QB position to the actual ratio this problem will be solved!!!!

Issue solved

Love you all

Peace

Tim

It once was, and then the change was made to ensure teams kept the most capable backup QBs and not just a ratio busting body. The concern was that some teams were rolling the dice on backup QBs only because they were Canadian and just hoping the starter would not go down. The same logic still ap[lies because, no matter what some seem to believe, when a Canadian QB is the 1st/2nd/3rd best option for a team they will fill that role based on talent, not nationality.

Canadian QBs are generally more talented and more plentiful then they were back then, but American QBs are as well.

Here is a QB that's trying to be a Canadian citizen and being given a hard time by the immigration department.
He's made a lot of money in Canada, paid a lot of taxes including property taxes on his home in Ottawa.

[url=http://www.ottawasun.com/2015/04/03/ottawa-redblacks-qb-henry-burris-considered-part-time-worker-by-canadian-government-complicating-cfl-stars-immigration-aspirations]http://www.ottawasun.com/2015/04/03/ott ... spirations[/url]

Well shutter did al those things except he did not get a chance to start. If Shutter had done what Bo Levi did and transfer down to 1AA who knows how it may have turned out in terms of his stock.

This is a shock, the biggest Canadian QB prospect since Jesse Palmer has quite Penn State and transferred to UBC :roll:

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