NFL To LA Positive Progress

Re: NFL To LA Positive Progress

by Mightygoose » Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:13 am

Bumping this one.

Measure C in San Diego to increase hotel room taxes to help fund a new stadium and convention ctr is failing badly.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/ ... story.html

Needs two-thirds for approval and looks like they won't even get a simple majority.

Chargers have until Jan. 15 to accept move to LA as already approved by the owners.

Spanos says no decision will be made until after the season.

Edit: Results below


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FINAL Measure C results (#Chargers downtown stadium initiative):

NO: 56.96 %
YES: 43.04 %

10:03 AM - 9 Nov 2016
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Re: NFL To LA Positive Progress

by CFL2USA » Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:01 pm

Mightygoose wrote:Bumping this one.

Measure C in San Diego to increase hotel room taxes to help fund a new stadium and convention ctr is failing badly.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/ ... story.html

Needs two-thirds for approval and looks like they won't even get a simple majority.

Chargers have until Jan. 15 to accept move to LA as already approved by the owners.

Spanos says no decision will be made until after the season.

Edit: Results below


Annie Heilbrunn ‎@annieheilbrunn


FINAL Measure C results (#Chargers downtown stadium initiative):

NO: 56.96 %
YES: 43.04 %

10:03 AM - 9 Nov 2016


Nice move San Diego. It's great to see people standing up to these billionaires. Fund your own stadiums! Not having a football team isn't the end of the world. The sun has come up every day here since the Rams moved out of town.
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Re: NFL To LA Positive Progress

by Paolo X » Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:41 pm

I have to agree with the people of San Diego as well for sticking it to the owners and the NFL.

Now the most likely outcome is that the Chargers will go to LA and the Raiders to Las Vegas, but much can change very quickly in that regard.

The proverbial worst case is that the NFL decides to defer another year and revisit the situation in 2018.

There will be no "do-over" referendum in San Diego given that the measure, which required 2/3 in favour to pass, did not even obtain a majority.

In the case of deferral, both the Chargers and the Raiders will be paying high rent for another year to play in shoddy venues that are each about 50 years old.

We'll see in about two months in mid-January.
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Re: NFL To LA Positive Progress

by Mightygoose » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:46 am

Chargers are reportedly looking at the Memorial Coliseum as temporary home as the move to LA is starting to look more real.

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/char ... ble-120616

EPSN reports last week that the Chargers are very likely going to take that option before their window expires on January 15, 2017.....and no denial by the team either.

With 2 homes games left to sell and the team all but out of the playoffs, this seems like a lame duck month.
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Re: NFL To LA Positive Progress

by BigJoeM » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:14 pm

With the three shifts it will leave three NFL cities without a team St.Louis , Oakland and San Diego .

I can see if there is any future team movement these three cities would be an option for let's say a Jacksonville in the future . Everybody else is set for years to come and even Jacksonville has been very friendly to their owner .
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Re: NFL To LA Positive Progress

by Mightygoose » Wed Dec 14, 2016 1:48 pm

A couple of developments here as the NFL owners meet today.

League passes 2 hurdles

http://fox5sandiego.com/2016/12/14/nfl- ... ove-to-la/

1) Owners approve a debt waiver ceiling making it easier for the Chargers to pay the relocation fee should they decide to move.

"League owners approved a waiver of the debt ceiling, allowing the Chargers to borrow a portion of that fee from a bank and pay it off over a longer period, say 30 years, as opposed to the original agreement of $65 million annually over 10 years.

The debt ceiling for a team is $250 million."


2) They approve the lease between the Chargers and the Rams, should Spanos decide to move.

Also, from yesterday

4 SD councilors offer 1$/year lease for 99 years on the Mission Valley site in hopes to kick start new negotiations.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... -proposal/

This letter, was sent to Spanos, the NFL and the 31 other owners.

Apparently, Spanos is infuriated by this and I kind of don't blame him here.

With his deadline to accept a move coming January 15, it appears all but a done deal. Already approved by owners last year.
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Re: NFL To LA Positive Progress

by Paolo X » Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:26 am

Building on top of Mighty Goose's updates below comes this report from Sunday evening via Orange County, CA for the Chargers to LA:
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/char ... diego.html
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Re: NFL To LA Positive Progress

by Mightygoose » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:35 am

Regular season is over and Spanos has until January 15 to make a decision weather to move to LA or stay put.

Reports from the SD Union-Tribune a last minute final offer was made collectively between the city, county and SD State of 375.00 million in public dollars.

http://www.10news.com/news/chargers-watch-a-new-hope

It's still about 125 million short of what the Chargers want so apparently, Spanos is reaching out to the NFL for help to fill the gap.

This story came out 2 days ago and so far only the local media is picking it up. Nothing from mainstream national feeds.

Is this final offer legit or is it a PR stunt to make the NFL the bad guys if the team does leave? How this is phrased that the decision for the team to stay in SD is in the league's court.

Edit: Meeting between League's finance and stadium Comitees scheduled for January 11 in New York. That will make it unlikely Spanos will make a decision this week.

http://www.tsn.ca/nfl-stadium-finance-c ... 1-1.643923
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Re: NFL To LA Positive Progress

by Mightygoose » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:49 pm

Meeting with the finance and stadium Comitees going on in NY today.

League gives Spanos a 2 day extension on his rights to LA: Now January 17.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... to-tuesday

Sunday is of course game day and Monday is a holiday south of the 49th, so the league doesn't want an announcement happening on those dates.

In my interpretation - an extension only to the next business day really means - no extension
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Re: NFL To LA Positive Progress

by Mightygoose » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:12 pm

Announcement of the move to LA expected as early as tomorrow.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/1845 ... os-angeles

From no teams in LA and now to 2 again in short order.

Sucks for Charger fans going through the ringer off the these years.

With this and the pending Raiders move to Vegas, the league will have no more places for leveraging cities in the future.
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Re: NFL To LA Positive Progress

by c-way-dude » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:22 am

Mightygoose wrote:
With this and the pending Raiders move to Vegas, the league will have no more places for leveraging cities in the future.


Toronto :D
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Re: NFL To LA Positive Progress

by PTBO Dave » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:01 pm

c-way-dude wrote:
Mightygoose wrote:
With this and the pending Raiders move to Vegas, the league will have no more places for leveraging cities in the future.


Toronto :D


Not to mention San Diego, Oakland, and St. Louis.
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Re: NFL To LA Positive Progress

by okie » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:13 pm

NFL owners stays or moves just so they can play in a NEW state-of-the-art $1 Billion+ stadium that is mostly paid for by somebody else. Look at the Charger situation. Nobody even wanted them to move to LA. San Diego obviously, but the NFL wanted them to stay as well. Add to the fact that LA could care less about the Chargers. Anyway right now, none of those cities have any plans to fund + build a new facility anytime soon. Hence, there is no leverage for teams whose lease is expiring.
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Re: NFL To LA Positive Progress

by Aerial » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:13 pm

Mightygoose wrote:Announcement of the move to LA expected as early as tomorrow.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/1845 ... os-angeles

From no teams in LA and now to 2 again in short order.

Sucks for Charger fans going through the ringer off the these years.

With this and the pending Raiders move to Vegas, the league will have no more places for leveraging cities in the future.


Yup, the great world of pro sports where loyal fans shelling out big money for tickets don't count for much in the end. Sad.
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Re: NFL To LA Positive Progress

by c-way-dude » Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:39 am

San Antonio will probably still provide NFL owners with some leverage. They have the Alamodome, which a team could move into right away, and talked in the past about building a new stadium if they could get a team.
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