MLS 2017

Re: MLS 2017

by rcon » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:11 pm

KevinRiley2 wrote:Boasting at the Cabbage Patch...

Still yet to see any individual game ratings for Canadian TV, but this story from Paul Tenorio includes a claim from the league that viewership through the first five weeks is up 21% on TSN and 43% on TVA compared to last year.

Um... TSN average 38K for TFC games early in the season. A 21% bump would brings the number up to 46K/game. :lol:


That might put them up with the latest "No,No" infomercial in the ratings!!! :wink:
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Re: MLS 2017

by KevinRiley2 » Sun Apr 30, 2017 11:50 am

rcon wrote:
KevinRiley2 wrote:Boasting at the Cabbage Patch...

Still yet to see any individual game ratings for Canadian TV, but this story from Paul Tenorio includes a claim from the league that viewership through the first five weeks is up 21% on TSN and 43% on TVA compared to last year.

Um... TSN average 38K for TFC games early in the season. A 21% bump would brings the number up to 46K/game. :lol:


That might put them up with the latest "No,No" infomercial in the ratings!!! :wink:

According to the Cabbage Patch...

"(Chris Zelkovich) has a pod cast now, said at end of last one that he hasn't seen any mls in his numbers he gets ... which means they are still less that 100k cutoff..."

That means even the CTV games... That's a shame. :lol:
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Re: MLS 2017

by rcon » Sun Apr 30, 2017 1:58 pm

KevinRiley2 wrote:
rcon wrote:
KevinRiley2 wrote:Boasting at the Cabbage Patch...

Still yet to see any individual game ratings for Canadian TV, but this story from Paul Tenorio includes a claim from the league that viewership through the first five weeks is up 21% on TSN and 43% on TVA compared to last year.

Um... TSN average 38K for TFC games early in the season. A 21% bump would brings the number up to 46K/game. :lol:


That might put them up with the latest "No,No" infomercial in the ratings!!! :wink:

According to the Cabbage Patch...

"(Chris Zelkovich) has a pod cast now, said at end of last one that he hasn't seen any mls in his numbers he gets ... which means they are still less that 100k cutoff..."

That means even the CTV games... That's a shame. :lol:


Oh darn. :rockin: :rockin:
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Argos attendance better than people think

by vanhalendlrband » Wed May 03, 2017 12:09 am

So far in 2017 if you look at MLS attendance, the Argos attendance is higher than 7 MLS teams in 2017 so far.

And when compared to 2016 Argos attendance is better than 3 MLS teams.

Might be a sign of an upward trend for the Argos and a downward trend for the MLS.

I mean after all the MLS had less American Viewers than Canadian viewers for the MLS cup final, and combined US and Canadian viewers were less than just Canadian Grey Cup ratings by 900,000 viewers. We are talking US and Canada combined 2.9 million watched MLS final, 3.8 million watched Grey Cup.

So not sure TFC and other fans should be ripping the Argos so much when many teams in their own league are doing far worse and the TV ratings are nearly non-existent.

I expect a huge return for the Argos this year. No Tuesday or Wednesday games at BMO, 1 Monday, 1 Thursday, and the remaining 7 home games are between Friday and Sunday.

This is the first great schedule for the Argos since 2014 or earlier whenever Rogers started screwin with the Argos.
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Re: MLS 2017

by TravelPat1 » Sat May 13, 2017 8:06 pm

Well due to a backup on the Gardiner and Lakeshore to the Humber - it was a very late arriving crowd at BMO Field today. Glad I was on the packed GO Train as we flew by hundreds of cars. Thousand still streaming in 20 minutes after the game started - but ended up being a pretty decent crowd considering 42,000 were just down the road at the Jays game. An entertaining 3-2 win making it six in a row for the first place Reds. :-)

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Giovinco scores on the Penalty!
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Credit to the supporters end. Makes for a great atmosphere all game.
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Re: MLS 2017

by KevinRiley2 » Sat May 13, 2017 9:23 pm

TravelPat1 wrote:An entertaining 3-2 win making it six in a row for the first place Reds. :-)

Don't sprain your ankle with all that bandwagon jumping, Patrick. :thdn:
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Re: MLS 2017

by The Last Word » Fri May 19, 2017 11:10 pm

Normally , I don't visit this section too often but I had quite the chuckle reading posts in this particular thread of various CFL fanboys masking their insecurities with unsubstantiated claims and outright lies regarding the state of the MLS teams and their finances...as if such a critical mass of negative commentary will erase the disturbing trends we are witnessing in the present with the CFL's 3 biggest markets - an erosion of the fanbase and widespread disinterest in key demographics coupled with the steady growth of tv numbers from their key summer competitors.

A 30% (or whatever the number happens to be) increase in Toronto's MLS tv ratings might not seem like much when their previous base was at infomercial levels, but if this trend continues over a 5-10 year period we may see MLS games begin to rival the ratings of CFL games.

Weird how so many here have their heads in the sand regarding MLS' growth in North America, particularly among younger demographics. This will be a problem for the CFL as the fanbase continues to age and the younger generation will not fully replace those who die off or are too old to go to games anymore - they will have moved on to other interests, MLS being one of them....that is unless the CFL does something to actually stem the tide. Given the Board of Directors inability to agree on much of anything and its penchant for going through commissioners like a pair of underwear, I doubt a suitable answer to the CFL's not-too-distant demographic crisis is forthcoming.

No doubt many of you disagree, as I suspect the average age of the many posters here is above the age of 60. Most of you probably think the things will remain the same as they have more most of your lives. I have news for you - things change. The interests of the Canadian population change. Back when you were young, horse-racing and boxing were the biggest sports in North America along with baseball. Baseball has long been surpassed by the NFL, while horse-racing, outside of a few key events, has been relegated to the fringes. Boxing has been in a similar state for over a decade.

10 years ago, no one would have predicted that MLS would have nearly doubled their teams, increased their average attendance by 50-60% and increased their revenue nearly 100%. Yet it has happened. Most teams make money, tightly controlling their spending in contrast to what people on this board would have you believe. The MLS is here to stay by the looks of things - the leaders of the CFL are going to have to figure out a way to deal with it and in a hurry.

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Re: Argos attendance better than people think

by Argofan_1000 » Sat May 20, 2017 7:32 am

vanhalendlrband wrote:So far in 2017 if you look at MLS attendance, the Argos attendance is higher than 7 MLS teams in 2017 so far.

And when compared to 2016 Argos attendance is better than 3 MLS teams.

Might be a sign of an upward trend for the Argos and a downward trend for the MLS.

I mean after all the MLS had less American Viewers than Canadian viewers for the MLS cup final, and combined US and Canadian viewers were less than just Canadian Grey Cup ratings by 900,000 viewers. We are talking US and Canada combined 2.9 million watched MLS final, 3.8 million watched Grey Cup.

So not sure TFC and other fans should be ripping the Argos so much when many teams in their own league are doing far worse and the TV ratings are nearly non-existent.

I expect a huge return for the Argos this year. No Tuesday or Wednesday games at BMO, 1 Monday, 1 Thursday, and the remaining 7 home games are between Friday and Sunday.

This is the first great schedule for the Argos since 2014 or earlier whenever Rogers started screwin with the Argos.


MLS is trying to grow the sport but they are getting caught by not reporting attendance, twitter traffic, internet traffic, television ratings correctly. If that were the CFL I can't even imagine the negative press from doing this.
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Re: Argos attendance better than people think

by KevinRiley2 » Sat May 20, 2017 5:05 pm

Argofan_1000 wrote:
vanhalendlrband wrote:So far in 2017 if you look at MLS attendance, the Argos attendance is higher than 7 MLS teams in 2017 so far.

And when compared to 2016 Argos attendance is better than 3 MLS teams.

Might be a sign of an upward trend for the Argos and a downward trend for the MLS.

I mean after all the MLS had less American Viewers than Canadian viewers for the MLS cup final, and combined US and Canadian viewers were less than just Canadian Grey Cup ratings by 900,000 viewers. We are talking US and Canada combined 2.9 million watched MLS final, 3.8 million watched Grey Cup.

So not sure TFC and other fans should be ripping the Argos so much when many teams in their own league are doing far worse and the TV ratings are nearly non-existent.

I expect a huge return for the Argos this year. No Tuesday or Wednesday games at BMO, 1 Monday, 1 Thursday, and the remaining 7 home games are between Friday and Sunday.

This is the first great schedule for the Argos since 2014 or earlier whenever Rogers started screwin with the Argos.


MLS is trying to grow the sport but they are getting caught by not reporting attendance, twitter traffic, internet traffic, television ratings correctly. If that were the CFL I can't even imagine the negative press from doing this.
https://twitter.com/emptyseatsmls?lang=en

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Re: MLS 2017

by TravelPat1 » Sat May 20, 2017 8:45 pm

Atlanta are doing really well at the gate. Averaging 49,000 a game through their first three games. And caught part of the Whitecaps game in Vancouver tonight. The lower bowl seats looked pretty packed.

Orlando have sold out all six games at their new 25,000 seat stadium too. I'm sure Washington can't wait to get out of ancient RFK into their new $300 million stadium which is being built and will be named Audi Field. They've got a 12+ year multi-million dollar naming right deal with Audi for their new stadium.
- https://www.dcunited.com/audi-field

Minnesota hope to be able to move into their (very cool looking) $150 million 21,500 capacity new stadium at some point during the 2018 season but the start of 2019 is probably a more reasonable goal. Right now they are playing at the 49,000 seat University of Minnesota's football stadium.
- https://www.mnufc.com/stadium
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Re: MLS 2017

by The Last Word » Sun May 21, 2017 1:44 pm

TravelPat1 wrote:Atlanta are doing really well at the gate. Averaging 49,000 a game through their first three games. And caught part of the Whitecaps game in Vancouver tonight. The lower bowl seats looked pretty packed.

Orlando have sold out all six games at their new 25,000 seat stadium too. I'm sure Washington can't wait to get out of ancient RFK into their new $300 million stadium which is being built and will be named Audi Field. They've got a 12+ year multi-million dollar naming right deal with Audi for their new stadium.
- https://www.dcunited.com/audi-field

Minnesota hope to be able to move into their (very cool looking) $150 million 21,500 capacity new stadium at some point during the 2018 season but the start of 2019 is probably a more reasonable goal. Right now they are playing at the 49,000 seat University of Minnesota's football stadium.
- https://www.mnufc.com/stadium


Let's not forget the new $300 million dollar stadium in LA. Also, Portland and Kansas City are said to be looking at expansion plans due to wait lists for season ticket holders (an impressive 3000 waiting for Sporting and an incredible 13,000 in Portland). Many teams appear to be selling out or nearly selling out their stadiums.
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Re: MLS 2017

by rcon » Sun May 21, 2017 2:01 pm

The Last Word wrote:
TravelPat1 wrote:Atlanta are doing really well at the gate. Averaging 49,000 a game through their first three games. And caught part of the Whitecaps game in Vancouver tonight. The lower bowl seats looked pretty packed.

Orlando have sold out all six games at their new 25,000 seat stadium too. I'm sure Washington can't wait to get out of ancient RFK into their new $300 million stadium which is being built and will be named Audi Field. They've got a 12+ year multi-million dollar naming right deal with Audi for their new stadium.
- https://www.dcunited.com/audi-field

Minnesota hope to be able to move into their (very cool looking) $150 million 21,500 capacity new stadium at some point during the 2018 season but the start of 2019 is probably a more reasonable goal. Right now they are playing at the 49,000 seat University of Minnesota's football stadium.
- https://www.mnufc.com/stadium


Let's not forget the new $300 million dollar stadium in LA. Also, Portland and Kansas City are said to be looking at expansion plans due to wait lists for season ticket holders (an impressive 3000 waiting for Sporting and an incredible 13,000 in Portland). Many teams appear to be selling out or nearly selling out their stadiums.


Yes, they are just showing up to games dressed as empty seats. Great disguise! :roll:
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Re: MLS 2017

by The Last Word » Sun May 21, 2017 2:05 pm

rcon wrote:
The Last Word wrote:
TravelPat1 wrote:Atlanta are doing really well at the gate. Averaging 49,000 a game through their first three games. And caught part of the Whitecaps game in Vancouver tonight. The lower bowl seats looked pretty packed.

Orlando have sold out all six games at their new 25,000 seat stadium too. I'm sure Washington can't wait to get out of ancient RFK into their new $300 million stadium which is being built and will be named Audi Field. They've got a 12+ year multi-million dollar naming right deal with Audi for their new stadium.
- https://www.dcunited.com/audi-field

Minnesota hope to be able to move into their (very cool looking) $150 million 21,500 capacity new stadium at some point during the 2018 season but the start of 2019 is probably a more reasonable goal. Right now they are playing at the 49,000 seat University of Minnesota's football stadium.
- https://www.mnufc.com/stadium


Let's not forget the new $300 million dollar stadium in LA. Also, Portland and Kansas City are said to be looking at expansion plans due to wait lists for season ticket holders (an impressive 3000 waiting for Sporting and an incredible 13,000 in Portland). Many teams appear to be selling out or nearly selling out their stadiums.


Yes, they are just showing up to games dressed as empty seats. Great disguise! :roll:


They are showing up as empty seats in Portland and Kansas City? :lol: I think not.
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Re: MLS 2017

by TravelPat1 » Fri May 26, 2017 9:30 pm

25,000 the announced crowd at BMO tonight with the Reds coasting to a 5-0 win over Columbus without Altidore and Giovinco. Unbeaten in 8 MLS games now.

This Wednesday be interesting to see what kind of lineup they put out against Ottawa Fury in the return match at BMO on Wednesday in the Canadian Championships semi-fiinal after playing a lot of backups in losing Game One in Ottawa 2 - 1.
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