What's Eating At You? What's Riding You? (25 Words or Less)

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by PTBO Dave » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:15 pm

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PTBO Dave wrote:That sounds great. My last 3 visits to Canadian emergency rooms featured waits of 12+ hours for one and between 5 and 6 hours for the other two, and that was just to talk to a doctor. No shots, x-rays, blood tests, etc. :thdn:

On the plus side, it didn't cost me anything, except for about $25 in parking for those last two visits.

I'm sorry to hear that but that's not reflective of my experience.


Sadly, I think you've been lucky more so than I've been unlucky.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canada-ranks-low-in-international-comparison-of-patient-wait-times-report
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Re: What's Eating At You? What's Riding You? (25 Words or L

by KevinRiley2 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:20 pm

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PTBO Dave wrote:That sounds great. My last 3 visits to Canadian emergency rooms featured waits of 12+ hours for one and between 5 and 6 hours for the other two, and that was just to talk to a doctor. No shots, x-rays, blood tests, etc. :thdn:

On the plus side, it didn't cost me anything, except for about $25 in parking for those last two visits.

I'm sorry to hear that but that's not reflective of my experience.


Sadly, I think you've been lucky more so than I've been unlucky.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canada-ranks-low-in-international-comparison-of-patient-wait-times-report

Meh. A little waiting is a price I'm willing to pay for a system that is free and available/equal to all. I know that going in. Plus, I'm sure I could find other articles praising our system.

Anyway, I am happy with it.
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Re: What's Eating At You? What's Riding You? (25 Words or L

by PTBO Dave » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:27 pm

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KevinRiley2 wrote:I'm sorry to hear that but that's not reflective of my experience.


Sadly, I think you've been lucky more so than I've been unlucky.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canada-ranks-low-in-international-comparison-of-patient-wait-times-report

Meh. A little waiting is a price I'm willing to pay for a system that is free and available/equal to all. I know that going in. Plus, I'm sure I could find other articles praising our system as well.

Anyway, I am happy with it.


There are definitely positives to our system; the quality of care received is usually ranked well above average for countries with free and available/equal to all systems.

But our wait times are much higher than the average for countries with free and available/equal to all systems, and that should definitely be addressed.

Why do we have a 29% rate of waiting 4+ hours in ER, when countries such as Germany, France, and the Netherlands have only 1-4%? I don't know the answer to that, but it's certainly worth looking into and learning from those countries.

http://www.torontosun.com/2017/02/16/canada-has-worst-erreferral-wait-times-in-11-developed-countries-report
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Re: What's Eating At You? What's Riding You? (25 Words or L

by KevinRiley2 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:29 pm

PTBO Dave wrote:There are definitely positives to our system; the quality of care received is usually ranked well above average for countries with free and available/equal to all systems.

But our wait times are much higher than the average for countries with free and available/equal to all systems, and that should definitely be addressed.

Why do we have a 29% rate of waiting 4+ hours in ER, when countries such as Germany, France, and the Netherlands have only 1-4%? I don't know the answer to that, but it's certainly worth looking into and learning from those countries.

http://www.torontosun.com/2017/02/16/canada-has-worst-erreferral-wait-times-in-11-developed-countries-report

That's fair and a concern. You are right, things can always be made better. I'm open to changes to our healthcare - as long as everyone has equal access.

One change is having a single payer for all drugs across Canada - instead of 12 provinces and territories. I have communicated this to my MPP and MP.

If others have recommendations on how to make it better, please do the same.
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Re: What's Eating At You? What's Riding You? (25 Words or L

by Preisst » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:54 pm

Once when I got hurt playing hockey I had to wait about 6 hours.

Another time when I got hurt playing hockey I hung in there till the next day, went to the hospital where one of the guys I played with was an emergency doctor and he bumped me to the front of the line and I didn't have to wait.

Another time I took a puck to the face and went in with half my gear still on and gushing blood from my face, they fast tracked me through triage {and there were a lot of ppull in the emergency), I get stitched up, they x-rayed me in case my cheek bone was crushed and I was in the bar drinking within a few minutes of the team getting there.

A lot of it is circumstantial. Like I said the real problem is the left wing self-absorbed money hungry hypocrite bureaucrats at the top of the ladder and, of course, our politicians.
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Re: What's Eating At You? What's Riding You? (25 Words or L

by PTBO Dave » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:51 am

Preisst wrote:Once when I got hurt playing hockey I had to wait about 6 hours.

Another time when I got hurt playing hockey I hung in there till the next day, went to the hospital where one of the guys I played with was an emergency doctor and he bumped me to the front of the line and I didn't have to wait.

Another time I took a puck to the face and went in with half my gear still on and gushing blood from my face, they fast tracked me through triage {and there were a lot of ppull in the emergency), I get stitched up, they x-rayed me in case my cheek bone was crushed and I was in the bar drinking within a few minutes of the team getting there.

A lot of it is circumstantial. Like I said the real problem is the left wing self-absorbed money hungry hypocrite bureaucrats at the top of the ladder and, of course, our politicians.


Wait, your hospital has a bar in the ER? I want to go there next time i'm sick! :D
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Re: What's Eating At You? What's Riding You? (25 Words or L

by PTBO Dave » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:55 am

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PTBO Dave wrote:There are definitely positives to our system; the quality of care received is usually ranked well above average for countries with free and available/equal to all systems.

But our wait times are much higher than the average for countries with free and available/equal to all systems, and that should definitely be addressed.

Why do we have a 29% rate of waiting 4+ hours in ER, when countries such as Germany, France, and the Netherlands have only 1-4%? I don't know the answer to that, but it's certainly worth looking into and learning from those countries.

http://www.torontosun.com/2017/02/16/canada-has-worst-erreferral-wait-times-in-11-developed-countries-report

That's fair and a concern. You are right, things can always be made better. I'm open to changes to our healthcare - as long as everyone has equal access.

One change is having a single payer for all drugs across Canada - instead of 12 provinces and territories. I have communicated this to my MPP and MP.

If others have recommendations on how to make it better, please do the same.


One of the articles I read (I think it's in one of the ones I linked to above), suggests a centralized appointment booking service to help with wait times for specialists and procedures rather than have each referring doctor's office acting independently with no info on what's available and where. This wouldn't be a national thing, I assume, but would function on a regional level.
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Re: What's Eating At You? What's Riding You? (25 Words or L

by Liquor Kitty » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:56 am

My doctor takes me in on a day's notice ... BUT that being said, PEI has one of the most elderly and hypochondriac populations of anywhere I've been to in Canada.
I also had no problems seeing a doctor in Toronto.
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Re: What's Eating At You? What's Riding You? (25 Words or L

by Preisst » Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:04 pm

PTBO Dave wrote:
Preisst wrote:Once when I got hurt playing hockey I had to wait about 6 hours.

Another time when I got hurt playing hockey I hung in there till the next day, went to the hospital where one of the guys I played with was an emergency doctor and he bumped me to the front of the line and I didn't have to wait.

Another time I took a puck to the face and went in with half my gear still on and gushing blood from my face, they fast tracked me through triage {and there were a lot of ppull in the emergency), I get stitched up, they x-rayed me in case my cheek bone was crushed and I was in the bar drinking within a few minutes of the team getting there.

A lot of it is circumstantial. Like I said the real problem is the left wing self-absorbed money hungry hypocrite bureaucrats at the top of the ladder and, of course, our politicians.


Wait, your hospital has a bar in the ER? I want to go there next time i'm sick! :D


LOL.....good one......

In fact my house, the rink, the hospital and the bar are all within 10 minutes of each other. But I admire the way you think...... :rockin:
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Re: What's Eating At You? What's Riding You? (25 Words or L

by KevinRiley2 » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:28 pm

Dogs...

Went to my friend's house to let her dog out.  The dog was so excited to see me, he couldn't pee, until I picked him up, then he pee'd on me.  :thdn:

I brought him a donut (old fashioned plain) and THIS is the thanks I get. Next time he gets NOTHING. :(
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by oo DAWG oo » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:54 pm

KevinRiley2 wrote:Dogs...

Went to my friend's house to let her dog out.  The dog was so excited to see me, he couldn't pee, until I picked him up, then he pee'd on me.  :thdn:

I brought him a donut (old fashioned plain) and THIS is the thanks I get. Next time he gets NOTHING. :(

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by KevinRiley2 » Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:10 pm

oo DAWG oo wrote:
KevinRiley2 wrote:Dogs...

Went to my friend's house to let her dog out.  The dog was so excited to see me, he couldn't pee, until I picked him up, then he pee'd on me.  :thdn:

I brought him a donut (old fashioned plain) and THIS is the thanks I get. Next time he gets NOTHING. :(

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He's a little bugger. He just got "snipped" but he is still so hyper and aggressive. He's only small (10 lbs) but he can bite . Anyway, next time I don't pick him up until he empties his bladder.
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Re: What's Eating At You? What's Riding You? (25 Words or L

by KevinRiley2 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:30 pm

Aaron Hernandez killing himself. Not sure why it bothered me, but it did.
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Re: What's Eating At You? What's Riding You? (25 Words or L

by oo DAWG oo » Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:01 pm

KevinRiley2 wrote:Aaron Hernandez killing himself. Not sure why it bothered me, but it did.

There are people way more deserving of your sympathy...or whatever it is your feeling
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by oo DAWG oo » Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:17 pm

And so it begins ...1st tropical storm of the season good thing its just going to stay in the ocean and shake some fish around so iguess its time to stock up on supplies ...
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