Attendance vs TV

Attendance vs TV

by slimjim2 » Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:06 pm

TV ratings are good but the most important thing for CFL teams is ATTENDANCE
If 100k or 1 million watch, it doesn't make one bit of difference to the CFL bottom line.
TV numbers are meaningless if only 12k show up in Toronto on Sunday or 21k in BC
A sell out in Ottawa tonight, that is the most important number. Fans willing to go out to a game and pay an average of $80 and $11 for beers.
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Re: 2017 CFL TV Ratings

by KevinRiley2 » Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:12 am

slimjim2 wrote:TV ratings are good but the most important thing for CFL teams is ATTENDANCE
If 100k or 1 million watch, it doesn't make one bit of difference to the CFL bottom line.
TV numbers are meaningless if only 12k show up in Toronto on Sunday or 21k in BC
A sell out in Ottawa tonight, that is the most important number. Fans willing to go out to a game and pay an average of $80 and $11 for beers.

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Re: 2017 CFL TV Ratings

by PTBO Dave » Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:54 am

slimjim2 wrote:TV ratings are good but the most important thing for CFL teams is ATTENDANCE
If 100k or 1 million watch, it doesn't make one bit of difference to the CFL bottom line.
TV numbers are meaningless if only 12k show up in Toronto on Sunday or 21k in BC
A sell out in Ottawa tonight, that is the most important number. Fans willing to go out to a game and pay an average of $80 and $11 for beers.


TV ratings matter. They up the value of the TV contract when it comes time to renegotiate. It ups the value of advertising and corporate sponsorship when those things are negotiated. For example, you can be sure that Ford and TD look at the reach on TV when they decide to pay for patches on the uniforms of the Stampeders and Redblacks respectively. Similarly, corporations look closely at the TV numbers when they decide to advertise on fields (hence, the on-field ads are all oriented toward the broadcast cameras). And all of those make a big difference on the teams' bottom lines, just as attendance does.
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Re: Attendance vs TV

by thirdperson » Sat Jun 24, 2017 6:33 am

Attendance and television revenues are both important. But attendance revenue is greater than television revenue and determines profit or loss. Unlike other leagues, CFL teams cannot survive on television revenue alone.
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Re: 2017 CFL TV Ratings

by OskeeweeneeVI » Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:39 am

PTBO Dave wrote:
slimjim2 wrote:TV ratings are good but the most important thing for CFL teams is ATTENDANCE
If 100k or 1 million watch, it doesn't make one bit of difference to the CFL bottom line.
TV numbers are meaningless if only 12k show up in Toronto on Sunday or 21k in BC
A sell out in Ottawa tonight, that is the most important number. Fans willing to go out to a game and pay an average of $80 and $11 for beers.


TV ratings matter. They up the value of the TV contract when it comes time to renegotiate. It ups the value of advertising and corporate sponsorship when those things are negotiated. For example, you can be sure that Ford and TD look at the reach on TV when they decide to pay for patches on the uniforms of the Stampeders and Redblacks respectively. Similarly, corporations look closely at the TV numbers when they decide to advertise on fields (hence, the on-field ads are all oriented toward the broadcast cameras). And all of those make a big difference on the teams' bottom lines, just as attendance does.

Summed it up perfectly, Dave. The TV numbers may not help you today, but they sure help when contracts are up.
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Re: Attendance vs TV

by brianjoxx » Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:44 am

Attendance week 1

Montreal 20,129 ouch!

Ottawa 24,465 Low!
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Re: Attendance vs TV

by HfxTC » Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:56 am

brianjoxx wrote:Attendance week 1

Montreal 20,129 ouch!

Ottawa 24,465 Low!


Ouch? Means the place was pretty much full, the end zone seats just aren't selling, no matter what they do, what promo they run, they just can't move them. It's a good sign, it is a maturing fan base that knows it's football.
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Re: Attendance vs TV

by Hammertown Proud » Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:21 am

HfxTC wrote:
brianjoxx wrote:Attendance week 1

Montreal 20,129 ouch!

Ottawa 24,465 Low!


Ouch? Means the place was pretty much full, the end zone seats just aren't selling, no matter what they do, what promo they run, they just can't move them. It's a good sign, it is a maturing fan base that knows it's football.


Interesting slant.
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Re: Attendance vs TV

by TravelPat1 » Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:24 am

brianjoxx wrote:Attendance week 1

Montreal 20,129 ouch!

Ottawa 24,465 Low!


Isn't 24,465 a total sellout in Ottawa? (Capacity is listed as 24,000 in online descriptions of TD Place). How can that be described as 'low'.
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Re: Attendance vs TV

by rcon » Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:40 am

TravelPat1 wrote:
brianjoxx wrote:Attendance week 1

Montreal 20,129 ouch!

Ottawa 24,465 Low!


Isn't 24,465 a total sellout in Ottawa? (Capacity is listed as 24,000 in online descriptions of TD Place). How can that be described as 'low'.


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Re: Attendance vs TV

by RBFan2014 » Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:59 pm

TravelPat1 wrote:
brianjoxx wrote:Attendance week 1

Montreal 20,129 ouch!

Ottawa 24,465 Low!


Isn't 24,465 a total sellout in Ottawa? (Capacity is listed as 24,000 in online descriptions of TD Place). How can that be described as 'low'.

Yup, Ottawa had 465 more people than seats, not sure what else brianjoxx expects. Especially considering the weather was expected to be bad and it rained leading up to game time.
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Re: Attendance vs TV

by KevinRiley2 » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:36 pm

brianjoxx wrote:Attendance week 1

Montreal 20,129 ouch!!

It was a Thursday night game. But, then again, it was the SRR so...

It should have been much better.
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Re: Attendance vs TV

by KevinRiley2 » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:39 pm

This nitpicking of the all things CFL makes me not want to come to this forum. Can't we just enjoy the season?
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Re: Attendance vs TV

by Neely2005 » Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:25 pm

slimjim2 wrote:TV ratings are good but the most important thing for CFL teams is ATTENDANCE
If 100k or 1 million watch, it doesn't make one bit of difference to the CFL bottom line.
TV numbers are meaningless if only 12k show up in Toronto on Sunday or 21k in BC
A sell out in Ottawa tonight, that is the most important number. Fans willing to go out to a game and pay an average of $80 and $11 for beers.


I see that our resident CFL hater is back.

Ask TSN if they think TV Ratings are meaningless. The higher the TV Ratings the higher that TSN can charge advertisers for commercials.

The higher the TV Ratings the higher the $that the CFL can charge for the next Canadian or US TV contract.
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Re: Attendance vs TV

by Neely2005 » Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:29 pm

brianjoxx wrote:Attendance week 1

Montreal 20,129 ouch!

Ottawa 24,465 Low!


So Ottawa at 100+% capacity is low? Aside from you what's high then?
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