2017 CFL TV Ratings

Re: 2017 CFL TV Ratings

by rcon » Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:11 pm

KevinRiley2 wrote:
oskee7777 wrote:Week 3 English language CFL ratings

Thursday
B.C. at Montreal: 362,000

Friday
Calgary at Winnipeg: 478,000

Saturday
Toronto at Ottawa: 453,000
Hamilton at Saskatchewan.: 628,000

Thanks!

Add the RDS and Thursday, Friday and Saturday night (late) break 500K. Still not good. :thdn:



No Jays or MLS numbers. Must be BAD!!! :roll: :roll: :roll: :wink:
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Re: 2017 CFL TV Ratings

by TravelPat1 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:50 am

It is too bad we don't see ratings from all sports on a weekely basis anymore. It seems we're largely going to have to rely on press releases which usually only happen when the news is good. Lately there haven't been very many press releases about good ratings from either TSN or Sportsnet - so I suspect there are a few games/sports not setting the ratings world on fire.

Here's hoping the Cats surprise me and make the game I'll be at here in Hamilton on Saturday an entertaining one for you guys watching on TV - to help attract decent Saturday night numbers.
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Re: 2017 CFL TV Ratings

by Argofan_1000 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:50 pm

https://www.thestar.com/business/tech_n ... anada.html

Dazn - the Netflix of sports could be on its way to Canada. I hope it gets delayed so Bell can get it's S... in order.

Can you imagine CFL on a streaming service world wide? The Star of course only mentions NFL, MLB, NHL but I think the big opportunity is to pickup the CFL through Bell as the rights holder.

Bell I hope looks into this and also places the playoffs and GC on CTV.
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Re: 2017 CFL TV Ratings

by Argofan_1000 » Thu Jul 20, 2017 5:29 pm

CFL TV ratings released by the CFL

Paulo Senra‏ @paulosenra Jul 19

#CFL Week 5 starts in just over 3hrs! Here are last week's averages:
TOR/WPG: 636,000
CGY/MTL: 628,000
BC/HAM: 523,000
OTT/EDM: 500,000
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Re: 2017 CFL TV Ratings

by KevinRiley2 » Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:30 pm

Argofan_1000 wrote:CFL TV ratings released by the CFL

Paulo Senra‏ @paulosenra Jul 19

#CFL Week 5 starts in just over 3hrs! Here are last week's averages:
TOR/WPG: 636,000
CGY/MTL: 628,000
BC/HAM: 523,000
OTT/EDM: 500,000

Does that include RDS?

I can NEVER tell which games will be high and which be low. The exception : Ottawa. Always low.
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Re: 2017 CFL TV Ratings

by Neely2005 » Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:02 pm

Argofan_1000 wrote:CFL TV ratings released by the CFL

Paulo Senra‏ @paulosenra Jul 19

#CFL Week 5 starts in just over 3hrs! Here are last week's averages:
TOR/WPG: 636,000
CGY/MTL: 628,000
BC/HAM: 523,000
OTT/EDM: 500,000


Link:

https://mobile.twitter.com/paulosenra/s ... 7884081154
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Grey Cup Wins:

16- Toronto Argonauts
14- Edmonton Eskimos
10- Winnipeg Blue Bombers
8- Hamilton Tiger-Cats
7- Ottawa Rough Riders
7- Montreal Alouettes
7- Calgary Stampeders
6- B.C. Lions
4- Saskatchewan Roughriders"

http://www.cfl.ca/2010/12/02/by-the-num ... cup-glory/
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Re: 2017 CFL TV Ratings

by Neely2005 » Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:04 pm

KevinRiley2 wrote:
Argofan_1000 wrote:CFL TV ratings released by the CFL

Paulo Senra‏ @paulosenra Jul 19

#CFL Week 5 starts in just over 3hrs! Here are last week's averages:
TOR/WPG: 636,000
CGY/MTL: 628,000
BC/HAM: 523,000
OTT/EDM: 500,000

Does that include RDS?

I can NEVER tell which games will be high and which be low. The exception : Ottawa. Always low.


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Grey Cup Wins:

16- Toronto Argonauts
14- Edmonton Eskimos
10- Winnipeg Blue Bombers
8- Hamilton Tiger-Cats
7- Ottawa Rough Riders
7- Montreal Alouettes
7- Calgary Stampeders
6- B.C. Lions
4- Saskatchewan Roughriders"

http://www.cfl.ca/2010/12/02/by-the-num ... cup-glory/
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Re: 2017 CFL TV Ratings

by KevinRiley2 » Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:28 pm

The numbers are down from last year. Having said that, they are trending up, over the last 3 weeks, as :

1) The Jays fall out of contention;
2) People are seeing quality CFL games.

TBH, after years of garbage, lower ratings should be expected - quality of 2015-2016 games were AWFUL. Hopefully, we will see an upswing as people tune in to better football - because this year's games have been VERY good.
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Re: 2017 CFL TV Ratings

by rcon » Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:36 pm

KevinRiley2 wrote:
Argofan_1000 wrote:CFL TV ratings released by the CFL

Paulo Senra‏ @paulosenra Jul 19

#CFL Week 5 starts in just over 3hrs! Here are last week's averages:
TOR/WPG: 636,000
CGY/MTL: 628,000
BC/HAM: 523,000
OTT/EDM: 500,000

Does that include RDS?

I can NEVER tell which games will be high and which be low. The exception : Ottawa. Always low.


Ottawa is always low because they not one of the 5 cities counted in numeris ratings to make the national numbers.
This skews the ratings numbers.

From Wikipedia:
"Television[edit]
In television, Numeris is partnered with the American company Nielsen in a joint venture which measures the Toronto, Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Montreal Anglo and Montreal Franco markets, [8] the Ontario region and national ratings figures via Portable People Meters. Numeris is the senior partner in the joint venture, and also continues to independently monitor some markets — primarily the francophone television market in Quebec, and some smaller media markets — which are not served by the joint operation, through diaries.[2]"
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Re: 2017 CFL TV Ratings

by KevinRiley2 » Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:41 pm

Good to know. That makes sense.

rcon wrote:
KevinRiley2 wrote:
Argofan_1000 wrote:CFL TV ratings released by the CFL

Paulo Senra‏ @paulosenra Jul 19

#CFL Week 5 starts in just over 3hrs! Here are last week's averages:
TOR/WPG: 636,000
CGY/MTL: 628,000
BC/HAM: 523,000
OTT/EDM: 500,000

Does that include RDS?

I can NEVER tell which games will be high and which be low. The exception : Ottawa. Always low.


Ottawa is always low because they not one of the 5 cities counted in numeris ratings to make the national numbers.
This skews the ratings numbers.

From Wikipedia:
"Television[edit]
In television, Numeris is partnered with the American company Nielsen in a joint venture which measures the Toronto, Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Montreal Anglo and Montreal Franco markets, [8] the Ontario region and national ratings figures via Portable People Meters. Numeris is the senior partner in the joint venture, and also continues to independently monitor some markets — primarily the francophone television market in Quebec, and some smaller media markets — which are not served by the joint operation, through diaries.[2]"
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Re: 2017 CFL TV Ratings

by rcon » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:00 pm

I see Mikem has changed his name again
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Re: 2017 CFL TV Ratings

by rpaege » Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:08 pm

mikey246 wrote:You should read about Numeris on their site not on Wikepedia.


Wikipedia can only be as good as the references cited in the article. In this case, a very old news item from a 2004 trade site.

I'd be inclined to doubt a source that old, but it is still sufficient to wonder if there aren't some minor artifacts left over from a previous system that are affecting the results. After all, those consistently lower Ottawa numbers, if accurate, do seem worthy of questioning, at least to the unwashed in the science of polling.
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Re: 2017 CFL TV Ratings

by Paolo X » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:36 am

rpaege wrote:
mikey246 wrote:You should read about Numeris on their site not on Wikepedia.


Wikipedia can only be as good as the references cited in the article. In this case, a very old news item from a 2004 trade site.

I'd be inclined to doubt a source that old, but it is still sufficient to wonder if there aren't some minor artifacts left over from a previous system that are affecting the results. After all, those consistently lower Ottawa numbers, if accurate, do seem worthy of questioning, at least to the unwashed in the science of polling.


That's a superb point indeed. And this is another fine piece of evidence that not all the data are on the internet as well as not all the reliable or current data.

We've seen the failures of polling on other fronts including recently in the US elections, and much overhaul is still needed.

The dominant entertainment industry, geared to older advertising models, did not adapt as quickly to changes in viewing habits that came inevitably with technology. Some of that lack of adaptation was tied to older executives who did not care and have since retired, and some of it was tied to delays in the US due to the Great Recession during which budgets for quality content were slashed and so adopting better technology was delayed.

Now the industry is in a phase of adapting to new ground, and in such times I think it's wise to take any bold claims about ratings with a grain of salt but for the known Top 5 or so biggest television events of the year in any given country or region of the world.
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Re: 2017 CFL TV Ratings

by Paolo X » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:40 am

KevinRiley2 wrote:The numbers are down from last year. Having said that, they are trending up, over the last 3 weeks, as :

1) The Jays fall out of contention;
2) People are seeing quality CFL games.

TBH, after years of garbage, lower ratings should be expected - quality of 2015-2016 games were AWFUL. Hopefully, we will see an upswing as people tune in to better football - because this year's games have been VERY good.


I think that's right. Oh I'd say the games have not been this good since perhaps 2012 or 2013 given also so many fine starting QBs (see QB 2017 thread) in my memory since perhaps 2009, but the rules changes put in place for the 2015 indeed did in my opinion make for a period of longer transition and poor quality of play than many had thought:

https://www.cfl.ca/2015/04/08/major-rul ... governors/
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Re: 2017 CFL TV Ratings

by Paolo X » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:45 am

Argofan_1000 wrote:Paulo Senra from the CFL office commented on the 3down article. He asked why they didn't publish the following

55% increase on RDS for opening weekend and 91% increase in the 18-49 year olds on RDS for opening weekend.

3downnation missed this and twisted the truth to suit them. I have to think sometimes that 3down is anti CFL with some of the things they write


It seems to me from reports since the above post on 1 July that beyond the high ratings for any game in which Saskatchewan is involved, the ratings for games in which Montreal is involved when RDS is counted are anywhere from 500,000 to outstanding and top of the list.

I'd be interested to hear more on this thread from also a fan of the Alouettes, or anyone living in Quebec, on the current vibe in Quebec for them.
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