Justin Cox released and no other team allowed to sign him

Justin Cox released and no other team allowed to sign him

by TravelPat1 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:26 am

Riders released Cox after domestic abuse charges - and the league will not allow anybody else to sign him.

https://press.cfl.ca/statement-from-can ... ustin-cox#

Wednesday, April 19, 2017 —
Earlier today, the Saskatchewan Roughrider Football Club released Justin Cox after being informed of an incident involving domestic violence. Our clubs have been informed that should any team decide to sign Mr. Cox to a Standard Player Contract, I will refuse to register that contract. This authority rests with the Commissioner under our league’s Constitution.

The Canadian Football League is committed to doing its part to eradicate violence against women. As is stated in our Policy on Violence Against Women, “the CFL condemns violence against women in all of its forms, including domestic violence, sexual violence, sexual assault, and verbal abuse, as well as the disrespectful and demeaning attitudes that foster violence or the tolerance of such violence.” In keeping with the policy, the CFL has worked with Saskatchewan to ensure appropriate outreach is made to local police and support and counseling services. We must all do what we can to ensure the safety of women and to urge perpetrators to seek the help they need to change their behaviour and stop the violence.
-CFL Commissioner Jeffrey L. Orridge 


After some initial tweets apologizing for his behaviour - later Cox was tweeting a denial.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatche ... -1.4075810
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Re: Justin Cox released and no other team allowed to sign hi

by PTBO Dave » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:19 am

These situations always put the league in a tough spot. Do you stick to 'innocent until proven guilty' and risk the appearance of being in support of domestic violence, or do you do as the league has done and ban someone accused though not yet proven guilty of a crime and risk the appearance of being willing to throw your employees under the bus?

While it's not ideal, I think the league's stance is best for business.

I hope that the accusations prove unfounded and Cox can be reinstated with proper compensation, though I won't be holding my breath for that outcome.
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Re: Justin Cox released and no other team allowed to sign hi

by brihind88 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:49 am

Is there a double standard here depending on the charges ?

Tommy Campbell has benefit of doubt and innocent til proven guilty.

Yet Justin Cox is now cut , then blackballed before convicted .

I am wondering if the CFL is showing abuse of power.

If I were Cox, I would ask my lawyer to look into labour laws that might suggest the CFL can not do this.

However I will point out, I have no respect, sympathy, patients, understanding or use for any scum that abuses women, children or animals.

IF PROVEN guilty and CONVICTED then ban him from the CFL permanent.
Not before.

Same goes for the guy that was accused of shooting Mylan Hicks.
Strange how that went off the media radar . :?
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by PTBO Dave » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:32 am

Yes, I think there are different standards based on the offense. Cox is accused of a violent crime, and one against a woman, which makes the public reaction to the crime even stronger.

I think that if the public were as likely to create a large negative backlash against the league for drug-related crimes, then we'd see the league take similar actions against Campbell.

I wonder, though, if a double standard would arise should a player like Michael Sam or an exec like Catherine Raiche be accused of domestic violence. Hopefully, we'll never find out.
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Re: Justin Cox released and no other team allowed to sign hi

by rhymes with orange » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:56 am

brihind88 wrote:Is there a double standard here depending on the charges ?

Tommy Campbell has benefit of doubt and innocent til proven guilty.

Yet Justin Cox is now cut , then blackballed before convicted .



True. Cox has yet not been convicted of anything. However, due to the severity of the allegation (domestic assault) this required swift action from the league (and club), in keeping with its domestic violence policy. I believe the severity of the accusation trumps any drug charges.

One would think there was sufficient grounds to arrest him (in terms of physical evidence and a statement from the victim). Add in the fact that he has previously pleaded guilty to domestic violence and I can see why the club took immediate actions.

However, I thought Orridge's statement was a little heavy handed for an alleged perpetrator. A reminder of the league's policy would have been sufficient. A public edict not to sign him could have been done behind closed doors, or until such time as he was found guilty of the charge (let's face it, no club was going to sign him anyway until this thing reached a conclusion so Orridge's ban was little more than grandstanding).
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Re: Justin Cox released and no other team allowed to sign hi

by brihind88 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:13 am

Orridge ? WTF is he still around for ?

I thought he was out.

If he still has time to put in before he leaves , why would he even care ?

If it were me as the boss, I would just say " in a month I am out of this job. I could care less what you guys do and think. Leave me out of it."

I agree with you. Beating up a woman is more serious than a drug charge.

However, it is just this idea , the powers that be will pick and choose.

I know this would never fly here. In Great Britain , names and charges are not published or exposed until the case is in court with a guilty verdict.
Sometimes I think that would be a good idea in Canada.
You get all this publicity when accused, but those found not guilty can still have their lives ruined.
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Re: Justin Cox released and no other team allowed to sign hi

by depopulationINC » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:28 pm

PTBO Dave wrote:Yes, I think there are different standards based on the offense. Cox is accused of a violent crime, and one against a woman, which makes the public reaction to the crime even stronger.

I think that if the public were as likely to create a large negative backlash against the league for drug-related crimes, then we'd see the league take similar actions against Campbell.

I wonder, though, if a double standard would arise should a player like Michael Sam or an exec like Catherine Raiche be accused of domestic violence. Hopefully, we'll never find out.



Orridge introduced the zero tolerance policy on domestic violence, so it is pretty black and white. The team must be pretty confident this would stick....otherwise why not just suspend pending court results.

http://www.cfl.ca/2015/08/06/cfl-announ ... en-policy/

The policy was developed in partnership with the Ending Violence Association of Canada and following consultations with multiple women who are experts in the field of responding to violence against women. These experts work regularly with CFL teams to deliver outreach and public education programs.

“We will work to ensure all of our workplaces are safe from violence against women, and that the attitudes that allow violence to occur are not tolerated,” Orridge said.

“In the face of a report of violence against a woman perpetrated by any CFL employee, we will always take it seriously. Doing nothing will never be an option.”

Key elements of the policy:

• The policy applies to everyone who works for the CFL – not just players, but coaches, officials, executives and staff.

• Everyone in the CFL will receive mandatory training on violence against women and the issues surrounding it on an annual basis.

• The CFL will support, endorse and participate in efforts to increase awareness of violence against women and ways to prevent it throughout society, and in particular among Canadian youth.

• When any CFL workplace, including a CFL football club or one of its corporate offices, receives a report of violence against women involving a CFL employee, we will act.

• We will assess the situation and future risk to the women in question, and engage when necessary local experts who will make up violence against women response teams (VAWR teams). These VAWR teams will be made up of social workers and other professionals with extensive experience in dealing with violence against women.

• These VAWR teams will provide the best possible support and referrals to the women affected, ensure counselling is provided where it is deemed helpful to the men involved, and will strive to act always in the best interests of any children involved.

• We will always err on the side of safety, respect for the sanctity of human life, and every person’s inherent right to security from harm.

• We will not act as criminal investigators, fact finders, judges or juries: our focus is on providing access to experts who can intervene in a situation, assess the risk to the woman, mitigate any harm in the best way possible, seek behaviour change on the part of perpetrators and contribute to positive outcomes for individuals, families and communities.

In cases where there are clear and documented cases of violence against women – determined by the police, the courts, or confirmed by the perpetrator – the CFL will impose sanctions.

• The CFL will also impose sanctions when there has been a clear violation of protection orders or other directives put in place by the courts or police, as such violations are clear indications of higher risks of violence.

• These sanctions will range from suspension for single or multiple games to a lifetime ban from the CFL, depending on the severity and number of incidences.

• In determining sanctions, the Commissioner will consult a list of offences, including sexual assault, domestic violence, and violation of protection orders or other directives provided by the courts or police, as well as guidelines prepared in consultation with experts on violence against women.

• These sanctions will be subject to the provisions and processes of the league’s collective bargaining agreement with the CFL Players Association, and in the case of other employees, their employment agreements and employment law.

“The leadership being shown today by the entire CFL is to be applauded profoundly,” said Tracy Porteous, the Chair of Ending Violence Association of Canada.

“Violence against women has long thrived in the shadows so when organizations, especially those led by men, step forward to ask, ‘what can we do to break the silence?’ it shines an important light on a subject most people don’t know what to do with. Through this policy the CFL is changing history.”

The policy announcement followed news that the BC government is renewing funding for Be More Than a Bystander, the very successful anti-violence against women program that is a partnership between the CFL’s BC Lions and EVA BC.

Be More Than a Bystander is just one of the many such programs led by several CFL teams who are working in their communities to raise awareness of violence against women.

“Our players are truly leaders when it comes to generating awareness on this very important issue,” said Scott Flory, President of the CFL Players Association. “Several of our players, on a league wide basis, are out in the community changing mindsets about violence of all kinds, especially violence against women. They are reaching out to all ages and demographics with special attention paid to youth in schools.”

Domestic and sexual violence most often take place out of the public eye and are deemed the most underreported of all violent crimes in Canada. The main intent of the policy, in all circumstances where abuse or violence has been alleged, is to assess the risk, reduce or eliminate that risk, mitigate harm and promote positive change.

“In talking with women’s groups, we were struck by the fact that they put the emphasis on protection and support for a woman at risk, and supporting behaviour change on the part of perpetrators, while others can tend to measure a policy purely by how tough or punitive it is,” Orridge said.

“For example, the women we worked with on the policy spoke to us more about whether a woman’s life could be at risk, than whether her spouse was going to be punished. In fact, some said that removing an employee’s ability to make a living could affect his ability to provide child support, which would negatively affect his former partner and their kids.”

Under the policy, sanctions that involve suspensions and loss of income will only be an option if or when allegations are substantiated and the safety of a victim and/or community members has been compromised.

But whether there is ‘proof’ of an allegation or not, no report will be ignored. Every situation will be assessed, with experts called in when necessary, and help will always be offered.

With the policy now endorsed by the CFL Board of Governors, the league’s teams will work with the league office and the Ending Violence Association of Canada to identify the right regional experts to provide training, assessment and counselling services.

“Any policy evolves with time, and this one will. But this represents an important step forward for the CFL,” Orridge said.
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Re: Justin Cox released and no other team allowed to sign hi

by brianjoxx » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:57 pm

Cox convicted on 2 previous assault charges, This is the third assault charge, and against a lady.

Strike 3 bud :thdn:
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Re: Justin Cox released and no other team allowed to sign hi

by brihind88 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:44 pm

Wait, he tweeted an apology ?

There was his next mistake. That is the same a confession.

Lawyers, will now need to tell clients :

" make no statements to police, media, or tweet anything to anybody "
" keep your mouth shut and stay off off social media."

BTW, these guys only offer an apology after they are caught.
That is what they a really sorry about.

Was not aware he was a repeat offender.

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Re: Justin Cox released and no other team allowed to sign hi

by brihind88 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:48 pm

Wait, he tweeted an apology ?

" I apologize for my actions and decisions. Sorry I let you guys down"
BTW, I did not do it. :roll: :roll:

There was his next mistake. That is the same a confession.

Lawyers, will now need to tell clients :

" make no statements to police, media, or tweet anything to anybody "
" keep your mouth shut and stay off off social media."

BTW, these guys only offer an apology after they are caught.
That is what they a really sorry about.

Was not aware he was a repeat offender.

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Re: Justin Cox released and no other team allowed to sign hi

by Aerial » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:13 pm

Repeat offender, not good at all. :thdn:
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