Esks GM Ed Hervey relieved of duties

Re: Esks GM Ed Hervey relieved of duties

by BCCFLFAN » Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:44 pm

Lyle B. Style wrote:No doubt Hervey receives a big pay-out from the Esks for the balance of his contract (1, 2 or 3 years left, not sure which)
He'll also be a desired commodity (if he's learned any lessons about openness and/or humility) when things change in other CFL markets.
Montreal isn't exactly a picture of stability no matter what The Wettenhalls say.

Regina could easily go head over asswipe by mid-season - which will find Tennessee Corky hanging upside down from a tree or telephone pole.

Most likely he'll pop up in a senior advisory capacity with someone like BC, Montreal or Toronto.


Can't see B.C. being interested in Hervey. BC Lions are very media and fan friendly. Only problem is their marketing, hence their decline in attendance. Also ticket pricing and shutting off the upper middle bowl. Hopefully new ownership will solve these issues.
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Re: Esks GM Ed Hervey relieved of duties

by Lyle B. Style » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:08 pm

BCCFLFAN wrote:
Lyle B. Style wrote:No doubt Hervey receives a big pay-out from the Esks for the balance of his contract (1, 2 or 3 years left, not sure which)
He'll also be a desired commodity (if he's learned any lessons about openness and/or humility) when things change in other CFL markets.
Montreal isn't exactly a picture of stability no matter what The Wettenhalls say.

Regina could easily go head over asswipe by mid-season - which will find Tennessee Corky hanging upside down from a tree or telephone pole.

Most likely he'll pop up in a senior advisory capacity with someone like BC, Montreal or Toronto.


Can't see B.C. being interested in Hervey. BC Lions are very media and fan friendly. Only problem is their marketing, hence their decline in attendance. Also ticket pricing and shutting off the upper middle bowl. Hopefully new ownership will solve these issues.


I agree. The fan-friendly Lions definitely wouldn't hire a monster like Ed to be GM. However, if they need depth in their executive office - once Wally pulls the trigger in a year or two - they might consider him as a VP Football Operations - reporting to a GM (Wally or somesuch)

Fiefdoms are seldom fan friendly. Lord Lyle Bauer had bomber fans & media bamboozled for many years - the guy was operating a losing franchise but running the team like his own private fiefdom; making anywhere from $350,000 TO $450,000/ season. Bombers never disclose executive and coaching salaries. Only reason Bauer jumped ship is when his prize hire, Maggot Kelly got caught on a Pennsylvania police blotter - Bauer panicked, picked up stakes and took up Calgary on a pre-existing offer.

Bauer, much like Hervey was an intensely private individual who hated when fans asked too many questions. His specialty was threatening certain fans with physical violence - he knew very little else. Bauer has had difficulty making ends meet since Calgary cut him loose. Couple failed placements with local health agencies - but his autocratic style does not work in healthcare or non-profits. Bauer is barely 6o yrs old - but he's really lost touch with the CFL amongst other things!
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Re: Esks GM Ed Hervey relieved of duties

by depopulationINC » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:27 pm

Lyle B. Style wrote:
BCCFLFAN wrote:
Lyle B. Style wrote:No doubt Hervey receives a big pay-out from the Esks for the balance of his contract (1, 2 or 3 years left, not sure which)
He'll also be a desired commodity (if he's learned any lessons about openness and/or humility) when things change in other CFL markets.
Montreal isn't exactly a picture of stability no matter what The Wettenhalls say.

Regina could easily go head over asswipe by mid-season - which will find Tennessee Corky hanging upside down from a tree or telephone pole.

Most likely he'll pop up in a senior advisory capacity with someone like BC, Montreal or Toronto.


Can't see B.C. being interested in Hervey. BC Lions are very media and fan friendly. Only problem is their marketing, hence their decline in attendance. Also ticket pricing and shutting off the upper middle bowl. Hopefully new ownership will solve these issues.


I agree. The fan-friendly Lions definitely wouldn't hire a monster like Ed to be GM. However, if they need depth in their executive office - once Wally pulls the trigger in a year or two - they might consider him as a VP Football Operations - reporting to a GM (Wally or somesuch)

Fiefdoms are seldom fan friendly. Lord Lyle Bauer had bomber fans & media bamboozled for many years - the guy was operating a losing franchise but running the team like his own private fiefdom; making anywhere from $350,000 TO $450,000/ season. Bombers never disclose executive and coaching salaries. Only reason Bauer jumped ship is when his prize hire, Maggot Kelly got caught on a Pennsylvania police blotter - Bauer panicked, picked up stakes and took up Calgary on a pre-existing offer.

Bauer, much like Hervey was an intensely private individual who hated when fans asked too many questions. His specialty was threatening certain fans with physical violence - he knew very little else. Bauer has had difficulty making ends meet since Calgary cut him loose. Couple failed placements with local health agencies - but his autocratic style does not work in healthcare or non-profits. Bauer is barely 6o yrs old - but he's really lost touch with the CFL amongst other things!


If there is any truth to some of the rumors floating around about Ed's time at the BOG round table this year he might have a hard time landing a new job for a while...it all dissipates with time, but it might take a while. I have heard he put a less than flattering lite shining on the club in the eyes of other senior brass. I will shoot you a message
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Re: Esks GM Ed Hervey relieved of duties

by jamie » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:39 pm

Hervey is very similar to Chamblin in many ways. It will hurt him that he has no coaching experience in any way. Someone will no doubt bring him in in a couple of years to do some scouting. He'll have to stockpile his all black gansta outfits and fedoras though.
I wonder if he spent a lot of time at the knee of Shivers in their off season Vegas homes.
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Re: Esks GM Ed Hervey relieved of duties

by depopulationINC » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:52 pm

jamie wrote:Hervey is very similar to Chamblin in many ways. It will hurt him that he has no coaching experience in any way. Someone will no doubt bring him in in a couple of years to do some scouting. He'll have to stockpile his all black gansta outfits and fedoras though.
I wonder if he spent a lot of time at the knee of Shivers in their off season Vegas homes.


I didn't want to point that out, but in some ways yes. The big difference is that Chamblin asserted himself over staff and intimidated them...Hervey has tried doing it to people above him.
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Re: Esks GM Ed Hervey relieved of duties

by jamie » Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:07 am

He publically berated Rotellier saying he'd never play another game for Esks. Got rapped by the Union.

Was the cause of tampering clause.

Threw Tillman under he bus after Esks fired him. Did the same to Kavis Reed after he fired him.

Chris Jones thanked everybody on the Esks EXCEPT Hervey. Two Alphas and all that I guess.

Hervey had some success but it was sure a messy ride. Maas looks a bit of the same cut which surprised me.



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Re: Esks GM Ed Hervey relieved of duties

by Migs » Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:33 am

This is what happens when an employee refuses to listen to their boss. Hervey got exactly what he deserved. He thought he was untouchable, now he's the boss of nobody. Good riddance.
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Re: Esks GM Ed Hervey relieved of duties

by Grover » Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:00 am

The timing of this makes it an ideal time for Chris Jones to go hard after Franklin with a trade before the draft.

SSK 1st and/or Josiah St John and Roosevelt for Franklin

Hervey would never deal with Chris Jones, but new ESK's Interim GM Paul Jones just might
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Re: Esks GM Ed Hervey relieved of duties

by Migs » Sat Apr 08, 2017 11:02 am

Grover wrote:The timing of this makes it an ideal time for Chris Jones to go hard after Franklin with a trade before the draft.

SSK 1st and/or Josiah St John and Roosevelt for Franklin

Hervey would never deal with Chris Jones, but new ESK's Interim GM Paul Jones just might


Jones would never give that up for Franklin. Collins or Edwards & a 4th round pic? Now you have something
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Re: Esks GM Ed Hervey relieved of duties

by jamie » Sat Apr 08, 2017 11:18 am

You really think an interim GM will have final say on trading Franklin?
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Re: Esks GM Ed Hervey relieved of duties

by Grover » Sat Apr 08, 2017 11:26 am

TOR gave up a 1st ++ for freaking Drew Willy and MTL gave up a 1st for the rights to Vernon Adams
That is why I put such a high price on Franklin who I think Chris Jones is pretty high on.
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Re: Esks GM Ed Hervey relieved of duties

by depopulationINC » Sat Apr 08, 2017 11:32 am

Migs wrote:
Grover wrote:The timing of this makes it an ideal time for Chris Jones to go hard after Franklin with a trade before the draft.

SSK 1st and/or Josiah St John and Roosevelt for Franklin

Hervey would never deal with Chris Jones, but new ESK's Interim GM Paul Jones just might


Jones would never give that up for Franklin. Collins or Edwards & a 4th round pic? Now you have something


yeah he would...and what you are saying as a trade wouldn't happen. More than one team has already offered more than that....it is not like no other member of the club is going to be aware of what has been on the table in the past....come in lower and you get hung up on.
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Re: Esks GM Ed Hervey relieved of duties

by papazoola » Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:13 pm

.....How the hell does the firing of the esks. gm relate to dealing Franklin...They are in enough turmoil when you let your gm go never mind asking an interim to deal a franchise qb....Hervey was revered by a lot of players and fans for producing a winner and looked the other way with regard to some of his antics..This Rhodes character makes me laugh....He's quoted as saying...'all Hervey did was win us a Grey Cup' and he might as well have added...'so what'...I thought that was the main goal for a team each season...I'm sure the Bombers would like to have said that once in the last 26 years and would have been grateful...This an ill advised badly timed move...Esks. could have easily have hired a PR. guy if that was the problem and let him do the heavy lifting in dealing with the media....Letting a winning gm go is hardly what most esks. fans wanted...Some are saying now it was money and that management didn't want to pay Hervey anymore on a new contract...Well all I can say to that is ...;you get what you pay for'...Hire a flunky like Taman and see how that washes...Interesting times ahead for the schmoes especially watching to see who they hire as Hervey's replacement. :wink:
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Re: Esks GM Ed Hervey relieved of duties

by HfxTC » Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:16 pm

Suitor said it well. This is a message to those who think they can do their own thing and are above the league's strategy.

For different reasons. Guys like Maas, Jones, Austin and Trestman come immediately to mind.
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Re: Esks GM Ed Hervey relieved of duties

by Grover » Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:02 pm

gary lawless‏Verified account @garylawless 3h3 hours ago
1. there have been some questions about why @EdmontonEsks CANNOT hire an employee from another club at this stage for vacant GM position

2. here are key clauses of #cfl #cfl ant-tampering rule:

3. a) permission in writing has been first obtained from the non-player employee’s current Club (President or General Manager)

4. b) approval in writing by the Commissioner or his delegate copied to both Clubs and the non-player employee

5. (key one right now for @EdmontonEsks) (c) the contact above shall only be permitted during the two-month time period of Dec 1 to Jan. 31;
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