ESPN's stake in TSN up for sale ?

Re: ESPN's stake in TSN up for sale ?

by HfxTC » Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:08 pm

Xvys wrote:TSN is Canada's leading and most profitable specialty network. TSN has the most viewers in every demographic in Canada. I highly doubt TSN will go out of business any more than CTV or Bell will shutter their operations. Bell holds the majority of shares in TSN and would never approve the sale of ESPN's stake to Rogers or any other competitor.

The CRTC must approve any ownership changes to Canadian media outlets and it's highly doubtful they would allow cross ownership from another Canadian sports channel.

If ESPN is bleeding money, their shares in TSN are their one bright spot and profit centre. It's unlikely they would sell their TSN stake unless ESPN is holding a fire sale and going out of business.



It is very possible that it is more profitable for Disney to sell ESPN and its TSN shares separately depending on who is interested in buying ESPN if any.
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Re: ESPN's stake in TSN up for sale ?

by drummer_god » Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:12 pm

It's also possible the earth is hit by a meteor and explodes, thus ruining the ESPN, Disney, TSN, CTV and the CFL :roll:
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Re: ESPN's stake in TSN up for sale ?

by letsgoticats » Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:33 pm

I guess with that AccessMedia guy gone, someone had to fill the void and start posting completely made up rumors.
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Re: ESPN's stake in TSN up for sale ?

by HfxTC » Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:43 pm

Sure its completely crazy to think that a company that's lost 300 million of its valuation in a market that has grown by over three trillion dollars may do some restructuring.... :)

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/in ... ss-dis.asp

RBC, Forbes, saying Disney should get out of ESPN and use the money to purchase a stake in Netflix makes no sense to those scratching jock itch, nope, nope.....

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/in ... ss-dis.asp
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Re: ESPN's stake in TSN up for sale ?

by Argofan_1000 » Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:14 pm

HfxTC wrote:Sure its completely crazy to think that a company that's lost 300 million of its valuation in a market that has grown by over three trillion dollars may do some restructuring.... :)

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/in ... ss-dis.asp

RBC, Forbes, saying Disney should get out of ESPN and use the money to purchase a stake in Netflix makes no sense to those scratching jock itch, nope, nope.....

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/in ... ss-dis.asp


ESPN misjudged the CFL experiment. ESPN did nothing really to promote the league, yet they had games approaching 250,000 up until labour day. They never had their own panel on a summer time game of the week or try to sell their own advertisements or truly market the CFL in the US using the NCAA players here. They gave the CFL nothing, spent nothing and looked upon the CFL as filler material but noticed they could draw viewers.
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Re: ESPN's stake in TSN up for sale ?

by HfxTC » Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:55 pm

They won't disappear but I think they will be sold off. Disney is horny to get a stake of Netflix and Netflix is horny for Disney's content. That's going to take a lot of money. Netflix is worth close to 50 billion, This would make the purchase of Netflix 10 times the cost of the biggest purchase Disney's ever made.


Wouldn't it be funny if Rogers bought ESPN from Disney :)
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Re: ESPN's stake in TSN up for sale ?

by HfxTC » Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:03 am

Tuesday an online rating service spelled out exactly just how disastrous that fallout is just in the last month. According to SportsTVRatings.com, the world’s premier global cable and satellite sports television channel, ESPN, lost a stunning 422,000 viewing homes between February and March 2017. Fox Sports 1 didn’t fare very well either losing 77,000 homes.
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Re: ESPN's stake in TSN up for sale ?

by letsgoticats » Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:39 am

You seem to making an argument for Disney ditching ESPN. Still don't see why ESPN would sell its stake in TSN.
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Re: ESPN's stake in TSN up for sale ?

by brianjoxx » Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:55 am

letsgoticats wrote:You seem to making an argument for Disney ditching ESPN. Still don't see why ESPN would sell its stake in TSN.


Disney will sell to anyone or takers at a hug discount. Its killing their bottom line and stock price.....
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Re: ESPN's stake in TSN up for sale ?

by okie » Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:05 pm

ESPN owns numerous properties. If things get that bad, they could easily sell off one or more of them before TSN.

The number of 77,000 lost by FS1 is not accurate. That amount refers to Fox Sports Deportes. FS1 dropped 545,000 subscribers. Take those numbers and ESPN's amounts in context with total cable dropped which was a -349,000.

ESPN does air their own commercials in CFL broadcasts. On ESPN3 replays, there are however times when there are no commercials during the later stages of a game. When that happens, a scrolling message appears that says the event is on a commercial break.

CFL to ESPN was never an experiment. The league to them has always been only filler material during the slow summer months. Once September begins, all the focus is the NCAA and NFL. Here are the ratings for games shown on ESPN2 during 2016 that I previously posted. The biggest ratings were around the end of June.


Thursday 06/30/16 - CANADIAN FTBL LEAGUE L - OTTAWA/MONTREAL - ESPN2 - 7:00 PM 10:27 PM - 257 - 112
Thursday 07/07/16 - CANADIAN FTBL LEAGUE L - WINNIPEG/HAMILTON - ESPN2 - 7:00 PM 10:08 PM - 233 - 102
Thursday 06/30/16 - CANADIAN FTBL LEAGUE L - TORONTO/SASKATCHEWAN - ESPN2 - 10:27 PM 1:07 AM - 223 - 102
Friday 06/24/16 - CANADIAN FTBL LEAGUE L - MONTREAL/WINNIPEG pre delay - ESPN2 - 8:30 PM 9:38 PM - 221 - 107
Saturday 06/25/16 - CANADIAN FTBL LEAGUE L - CALGARY/BC - ESPN2 - 10:15 PM 1:00 AM - 193 - 88
Friday 06/24/16 - CANADIAN FTBL LEAGUE L - MONTREAL/WINNIPEG postdelay - ESPN2 - 10:00 PM 12:40 AM - 185 - 98
Saturday 06/25/16 - CANADIAN FTBL LEAGUE L - OTTAWA/EDMONTON overtime - ESPN2 10:00 PM 10:15 PM - 178 - 79
Thursday 08/04/16 - CANADIAN FTBL LEAGUE L - SASKATCHEWAN/CALGARY - ESPN2 - 10:00 PM 12:57 AM - 176 - 71
Thursday 08/04/16 - CANADIAN FTBL LEAGUE L - BC/MONTREAL - ESPN2 - 7:00 PM 10:00 PM - 175 - 63
Thursday 07/07/16 - CANADIAN FTBL LEAGUE L - TORONTO/BC - ESPN2 - 10:08 PM 1:00 AM - 169 - 83
Friday 07/01/16 - CANADIAN FTBL LEAGUE L - WINNIPEG/CALGARY - ESPN2 - 10:00 PM 1:06 AM - 151 - 77
Monday 07/25/16 - CANADIAN FTBL LEAGUE L - MONTREAL/TORONTO - ESPN2 - 7:30 PM 10:37 PM - 148 - 64
Sunday 11/27/16 - CANADIAN FTBL LEAGUE L - CALGARY/OTTAWA - ESPN2 - 6:30 PM 10:38 PM - 126 - 46
Friday 07/29/16 - CANADIAN FTBL LEAGUE L - BC/CALGARY part 2 - ESPN2 - 10:26 PM 1:30 AM - 136 - 62
Friday 07/08/16 - CANADIAN FTBL LEAGUE L - SASKATCHEWAN/EDMONTON - ESPN2 - 10:00 PM 1:19 AM - 131 - 55
Thursday 07/28/16 - CANADIAN FTBL LEAGUE L - WINNIPEG/EDMONTON - ESPN2 - 9:04 PM 12:33 AM - 127 - 57
Thursday 08/25/16 - CANADIAN FTBL LEAGUE L - BC/OTTAWA - ESPN2 - 7:30 PM 10:28 PM - 112 - 49
Thursday 08/11/16 - CANADIAN FTBL LEAGUE L - MONTREAL/EDMONTON - ESPN2 - 9:00 PM 12:14 AM - 112 - 44
Friday 07/29/16 - CANADIAN FTBL LEAGUE L - BC/CALGARY part 1 - ESPN2 - 10:00 PM 10:26 PM - 93 - 32
Sunday 11/13/16 - CANADIAN FTBL LEAGUE L - EDMONTON/HAMILTON - ESPN2 - 1:00 PM 4:04 PM - 78
Friday 08/26/16 - CANADIAN FTBL LEAGUE L - SASKATCHEWAN/EDMONTON - ESPN2 - 10:00 PM 1:03 AM - 53 - 20*


*Game was not on the 2016 schedule listed by the league.
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Re: ESPN's stake in TSN up for sale ?

by HfxTC » Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:07 pm

That's where it is going. That makes it a real possibility that ESPN is parted out by Disney or even by the eventual buyer. A company like FOX for example that has not been successful with their Specialty Sports channel historically has had little interest in the Canadian or European market.
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Re: ESPN's stake in TSN up for sale ?

by robsawatsky » Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:47 am

Xvys wrote:..
The CRTC must approve any ownership changes to Canadian media outlets and it's highly doubtful they would allow cross ownership from another Canadian sports channel. ...
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ESPN has a 20% voting share and a 30% equity share of TSN, both are below CRTC's threshold for advance approval of change in ownership or control. The 20% voting limitation is because ESPN is foreign, that could go up if a Canadian(s) buy ESPN's share.
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Re: ESPN's stake in TSN up for sale ?

by robsawatsky » Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:53 am

HfxTC wrote:That's where it is going. That makes it a real possibility that ESPN is parted out by Disney or even by the eventual buyer. A company like FOX for example that has not been successful with their Specialty Sports channel historically has had little interest in the Canadian or European market.


Not so simple. ESPN is controlled by an 80/20 joint-venture of Disney and Hearst. The TSN shares aren't owned directly by Disney but by ESPN. Breaking-up ESPN, would require re-organizing the joint-venture with Hearst first or in simultaneous, multiple transactions.
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Re: ESPN's stake in TSN up for sale ?

by ed ohmnes » Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:54 am

This is where the CBC should step in, and solidify a great Canadian sport, certain things are worth government support
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Re: ESPN's stake in TSN up for sale ?

by GHT120 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:31 pm

ed ohmnes wrote:This is where the CBC should step in, and solidify a great Canadian sport, certain things are worth government support

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How would CBC purchasing the ESPN stake in TSN solidify the CFL?
ESPN is apparently looking at financial realignment, not TSN; no danger of TSN dropping CFL.
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