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Re: How do the Argos get another 10,000 fans

by KevinRiley2 » Thu May 11, 2017 2:44 pm

Mightygoose wrote:Agreed, the bar is low and probably as low as it's ever been.

And that's not a bad thing.
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Re: How do the Argos get another 10,000 fans

by TravelPat1 » Thu May 11, 2017 2:45 pm

Just a reminder of just how low the bar is - some attendance numbers from WEEKEND home games last season.

Friday night August 12th - 15,063
Saturday afternoon August 20th - 15,157
Sunday afternoon September 11th - 17,214 (which included a few thousand from Hamilton)
Thanksgiving Monday afternoon - 14,224
Saturday afternoon October 15th - 15,023

Those are the low numbers any kind of improvement have to beat.
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Re: How do the Argos get another 10,000 fans

by Mightygoose » Thu May 11, 2017 3:03 pm

Yeah, the numbers are not pretty.

But also a reminder that the attendance numbers from last year were based on scanned tickets. Not sold and distributed.

Not sure how they're going to report attendance this year but comparing one year to the next may not be as simple as the boxscores will indicate. But I'll ask my BMO contact when the season starts and see what he can share.
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Re: How do the Argos get another 10,000 fans

by slimjim2 » Fri May 12, 2017 6:44 am

TravelPat1 wrote:Just a reminder of just how low the bar is - some attendance numbers from WEEKEND home games last season.

Friday night August 12th - 15,063
Saturday afternoon August 20th - 15,157
Sunday afternoon September 11th - 17,214 (which included a few thousand from Hamilton)
Thanksgiving Monday afternoon - 14,224
Saturday afternoon October 15th - 15,023

Those are the low numbers any kind of improvement have to beat.


Thanks for that Pat, proof that there wan't much difference in attendance between weeknight and weekend games.
The highest attendance was for a Thursday night game.
The fans that complained and said they wouldn't attend because of the weeknight games didn't show up for the weekend games either.
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Re: How do the Argos get another 10,000 fans

by Neely2005 » Fri May 12, 2017 11:27 am

Neely2005 wrote:
slimjim2 wrote:
sambo42 wrote:Toronto is a pretty fickle sports town... for the longest time, the Leafs were the "it" team, then the Jays, and now the Raptors... if the Leafs manage to win a Cup, then all other teams could be virtually forgotten. Even though the Argos have won Grey Cups, they aren't "major league" in a lot of fans' eyes... that is the thing they need to change, to make an Argo game an event rather than just another game.


They tried hard last year to make an Argo game an event - there was the tail gate party in the Parking Lot with cheerleaders, $4 beers, $4 burgers etc. There was the "Shipyard" a separate area in the Ex grounds with concerts, games for the kids, $4 beers etc Lots of marketing with ads on billboards, subway, buses etc TV ads with the Argos running through the Ex grounds.

You are right, the Argos are not seen as "major league". The only way to change that is if the millens decide that the Argos are cool and the place to be. But that's not going to happen they are packing BMO for TFC and the RC for the Jays and the Raptors are hugely popular with young people.


Just keep doing those things. They will grow naturally over time. They already switched to the larger Ontario Place parking lot for the last few Tailgates.


Like I said above they need to keep doing what they're already doing and rebuild the fanbase over time. This isn't going to turnaround overnight. It's good to see that they've been reaching out to groups at a grassroots level.
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7- Calgary Stampeders
6- B.C. Lions
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Re: How do the Argos get another 10,000 fans

by sth1988 » Fri May 12, 2017 11:34 am

One ticket and one season ticket holder at a time. There is no magic bullet here.
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Re: How do the Argos get another 10,000 fans

by Neely2005 » Fri May 12, 2017 11:43 am

sth1988 wrote:One ticket and one season ticket holder at a time. There is no magic bullet here.


Exactly. It took Bob Young years to turn things around in Hamilton, it will take time in Toronto too.
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7- Calgary Stampeders
6- B.C. Lions
4- Saskatchewan Roughriders"

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Re: How do the Argos get another 10,000 fans

by KevinRiley2 » Fri May 12, 2017 12:35 pm

Neely2005 wrote:
sth1988 wrote:One ticket and one season ticket holder at a time. There is no magic bullet here.


Exactly. It took Bob Young years to turn things around in Hamilton, it will take time in Toronto too.

Yup. And we shouldn't feel sorry for Tannen-Bell. BCE got a massive 3 year extension via TSN, to buy the Argos, so...
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Re: How do the Argos get another 10,000 fans

by TravelPat1 » Sat May 13, 2017 7:38 pm

Look - Argos signage at BMO Field. (Took this picture as I was entering BMO for the TFC game today. TFC stuff still dominates.
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The (admittedly minor) bad news for the Argos today. Found out today that my friend who has the TFC tickets - who has also been a 20 year Argos season ticket holder - after the debacle of the over priced Grey Cup last year and issues related to that in dealing with the Argos - he and his friends decided not to renew this year. That's four 50 yard line Club seats not renewed.

There goes my invite to great seats for Ti-Cats games at BMO.
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Re: How do the Argos get another 10,000 fans

by Neely2005 » Sat May 13, 2017 7:50 pm

TravelPat1 wrote:Look - Argos signage at BMO Field. (Took this picture as I was entering BMO for the TFC game today. TFC stuff still dominates.
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The (admittedly minor) bad news for the Argos today. Found out today that my friend who has the TFC tickets - who has also been a 20 year Argos season ticket holder - after the debacle of the over priced Grey Cup last year and issues related to that in dealing with the Argos - he and his friends decided not to renew this year. That's four 50 yard line Club seats not renewed.

There goes my invite to great seats for Ti-Cats games at BMO.


If that's the North Side then that sign was installed during last season. At the Open Mic Night they said that they will be adding more of an Argonauts presence for the start of this season.
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16- Toronto Argonauts
14- Edmonton Eskimos
10- Winnipeg Blue Bombers
8- Hamilton Tiger-Cats
7- Ottawa Rough Riders
7- Montreal Alouettes
7- Calgary Stampeders
6- B.C. Lions
4- Saskatchewan Roughriders"

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Re: How do the Argos get another 10,000 fans

by slimjim2 » Sun May 14, 2017 11:38 am

The Als trying to win back fans, I don't whether it's "desperation or nice marketing"

The Montreal Alouettes have struggled to sell out Percival Molson Stadium over the last few seasons, but they’re finding creative ways to put butts in the seats.
The Als have come out with a ‘3-win’ ticket package that guarantees fans tickets to every home game until the team collectives three victories on their home turf. This package is limited to a few sections, but at 79$ per person, it has the potential to be steal.


http://3downnation.com/2017/05/14/aloue ... 17-season/
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Re: How do the Argos get another 10,000 fans

by KevinRiley2 » Sun May 14, 2017 11:45 am

slimjim2 wrote:The Als trying to win back fans, I don't whether it's "desperation or nice marketing"

The Montreal Alouettes have struggled to sell out Percival Molson Stadium over the last few seasons, but they’re finding creative ways to put butts in the seats.
The Als have come out with a ‘3-win’ ticket package that guarantees fans tickets to every home game until the team collectives three victories on their home turf. This package is limited to a few sections, but at 79$ per person, it has the potential to be steal.


http://3downnation.com/2017/05/14/aloue ... 17-season/

Wow... You're right. Not sure if it is desperate or clever.
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Re: How do the Argos get another 10,000 fans

by Hammertown Proud » Sun May 14, 2017 12:53 pm

I really like that.

A good way to keep fans in the seats if the team is struggling...which we know the Larks will be.... :lol:
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Re: How do the Argos get another 10,000 fans

by Argofan_1000 » Mon May 15, 2017 6:07 pm

Hammertown Proud wrote:I really like that.

A good way to keep fans in the seats if the team is struggling...which we know the Larks will be.... :lol:


$$

If Hamilton, Ottawa wanted to earn more money, then the opening game, labour day games, playoffs need to add temp seats in stadiums that can accommodate it. I am sure the Labour day game in Hamilton could sell an additional 10,000 seats, especially if the teams are bunched up in the standings and are playing exciting football
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Re: How do the Argos get another 10,000 fans

by KevinRiley2 » Mon May 15, 2017 6:35 pm

Argofan_1000 wrote:
Hammertown Proud wrote:I really like that.

A good way to keep fans in the seats if the team is struggling...which we know the Larks will be.... :lol:


$$

If Hamilton, Ottawa wanted to earn more money, then the opening game, labour day games, playoffs need to add temp seats in stadiums that can accommodate it. I am sure the Labour day game in Hamilton could sell an additional 10,000 seats, especially if the teams are bunched up in the standings and are playing exciting football

The problem is the cost. I've read it costs $100 per seat.
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