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The writers pick for week 16 has Toronto win 100% and Fans 67%....yeh writers,go figure.
I think we win this one closely, if Riders play like they did against Calgary; all three phases firing on all cylinders.
Going to need full 60 minutes of 'smart' hard nosed play on every play to get this one.
The Riders have been lackluster on offence for a couple weeks and horrid against the run and are facing a hot RB...I can understand this.  Will need to adjust a pile better on D this week...you give Ray 5 steamboats and you are done.
Completely agree. If the Riders can't stop the run and leave the middle of the field open like it was last week Ray will have a field day. No way we win and not have better time of possesion then last week. Use the 3 man rush which Jones obviously loves to do and I can see the Argos kicking our *** soundly.

Offense has to get back on track as it has been very lack luster the last two games.

We can certainly win this game but I just not with the performance of last week. Ray obviously is no Lindlay.

He likes it because it leaves so many options on disguising the blitz and where it is coming from...that is what I love about it to.  Problem is that they are not blitzing near enough.  When they did we saw 3 games where the results were stunning.  Jones will not do cover zero or dial up blitzing until he is comfortable with the secondary and guys knowing their assignments...something has changed since those games and he is not cool with it.  If I am reading what I am reading since the  LDC then I suspect we may see it dialed up a little bit more this game though....if not then I will need to rethink what I am seeing.
Umm but as you mentioned he hardly ever Blitzes and the excuse of  he is not going to bring pressure until he is comfortable with the secondary is getting really fricken old. Last year the same thing little pressure because of the secondary coverage or his lack of trust of the secondary. This year the same excuse? Hmm sorry but if you don't like what you have in the secondary then perhaps  you have failed in recruiting or in film and practices, and yes Jones only uses 3 man pressure or fronts probably 85 %  of the time and teams are starting to expose it for its weakness,he very very very seldom brings heat from the secondary . Bring 3 and teams now are blowing up the interior of the D line and getting O linemen on our linebackers. That is just begging for the offense to cram it down our throats time and time again. The defense is on the field far too long and when the offense gets on they are cold and usually a quick two and out. We face the Argos and then the Stamps and the Eskimos and Ottawa. Edmonton has now picked up Gable and while he is not as good as Messam or Powell  still we are going to see a steady diet of teams running free for all against that 3 man front. Yes James was the key but he is out and our D line is far too small without him.

Look at the last game in Ottawa and yes it was a short week and yes just coming off a tough game where the defense was on the field a ton (thanks to not being able to stop Messam) so again back to the Ottawa game, you are facing a team with 2 back  up O line men and a 3rd string qb so the great scheme is to not bring pressure and rattle him into mistakes but instead rush 3 and allow this rookie  to just hand the ball off play after play after play gaining huge chunks of field position and controlling the clock and scoring 17 points meanwhile keeping our offense sitting on the bench getting still and cold. Hell Tino would have looked like an all star qb against us. (that is as about as low as it can get)
I mean seriously if this game was not ripe for bringing the heat then sorry I don't know which one would be in the upcoming schedule. If not for the kick return  for the major we would have been toast in that game as the whole team was flat.  

In the Edmonton game Jones said he called the same defense 57 times, 57 times? Yeah um Dickerson and company are too stupid to not be able to recognize the same schemes? Please. Stick to the 3 man and no pressure without James or another big Dt and this team is in very big trouble.        
There is a difference between an excuse and a reason.

The team has given up <240 yards per game over the last 3 games.  I don't care who you are playing, that is impressive in the modern CFL.  The game has bigtime shifted and your focus absolutely needs to be on defending the pass.  It used to be that you shut the run down and make the opposition one dimensional...not any more.  The arial game is so dangerous with the no contact...this is why Jones dresses so many in the box and ideally 7-8 on the DL...it isn't for pass rush...it is so that late in the game when a team has built no rhythm in their passing game they have fresh bodies up front to push the gaps on run blitz.  While it is not what I would do it is a pretty damned sophisticated strategy.  Look at the last few games...teams ran, Riders kept themselves in it, then they changed up the D and went to run stop and the opposition could do nothing...yeah...they get a lot of yards on the ground getting there...but again, that is why so many up front are dressed.  If they get the fut swallowing run stopper of James back it will look so so so much better. 

All of this builds to one huge stat...in a presently pass friendly league where the new pass completion percentage standard that separates teams is 67.2%...used to be just under 64 (63.6)...the Riders are #1 in this category...the hardest team in the league to complete against....a huge accomplishment for how they started.

Again...not how I would do things...but it is not an "excuse" it is a reason...Jones knows that shutting down the pass comes first...being in position...then applying the pressure.  The secondary is about 90-95% there (good) the front 7 is having issues with some key aspects.

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Coming up on half it is clear a f that they need to play 4 on the line against Ray or start blitzing ...who knew lol

Sheesh

StormRider1

Coming up on half it is clear a f that they need to play 4 on the line against Ray or start blitzing ...who knew lol

Sheesh
That's what I said earlier in this post!! .... DUH!!  ;D

depopulationINC

Coming up on half it is clear a f that they need to play 4 on the line against Ray or start blitzing ...who knew lol

Sheesh
That's what I said earlier in this post!! .... DUH!!  ;D
I think everyone sees it except Jones.  Until they have that dominating DT the 3-4 doesn't work...well...it can...but only if they start mixing in blitz.

Also...Cox looks like a keeper...they should be pulling Jefferson on rushing downs and putting him in.

StormRider1

Coming up on half it is clear a f that they need to play 4 on the line against Ray or start blitzing ...who knew lol

Sheesh
That's what I said earlier in this post!! .... DUH!!  ;D
I think everyone sees it except Jones.  Until they have that dominating DT the 3-4 doesn't work...well...it can...but only if they start mixing in blitz.

Also...Cox looks like a keeper...they should be pulling Jefferson on rushing downs and putting him in.
I agree!!

StormRider1

Say what yah all want, but Bridge is starting to catch my attention, yes he is young with lots to learn, but he played a great game again!!... maybe our future, time will tell, good game guys, another lucky win!!

Jindred

Say what yah all want, but Bridge is starting to catch my attention, yes he is young with lots to learn, but he played a great game again!!... maybe our future, time will tell, good game guys, another lucky win!!
I was pretty down on Bridge being out backup. This game has really changed my opinion. 

Glenn has looked awful 3 games in a row now. When is the discussion of Bridge starting gonna come up in the locker room? 

StormRider1

Say what yah all want, but Bridge is starting to catch my attention, yes he is young with lots to learn, but he played a great game again!!... maybe our future, time will tell, good game guys, another lucky win!!
I was pretty down on Bridge being out backup. This game has really changed my opinion.

Glenn has looked awful 3 games in a row now. When is the discussion of Bridge starting gonna come up in the locker room?
Since Glenn hurt his hand he has been flat!

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Say what yah all want, but Bridge is starting to catch my attention, yes he is young with lots to learn, but he played a great game again!!... maybe our future, time will tell, good game guys, another lucky win!!
Never been sold on him...today I was sold on him.

bedrock

   Guess it was one of those days, game was on and I was looking for an excuse to go to the shop already. Then Bridge came on. You know that feeling where you kinda feel you have a bit of a mad on and it's time to get things done. Well that's what I saw that Bridge did, bang bang bang, rifling passes, etc etc and that team made a full 180 momentum swing and kept it. Things just started clicking with Bridge at the helm and todays game turned into one hell of an exciting sit me back down ball game for the rest of the 60 minutes. That was fun to watch !!! 

GC Bound

Yes, good game after the 1st. quarter. Very cool to see Bridge doing it and taking the game. 
A needed win for sure and like I thought "they win this one closely"
And I figure the Riders did play 60 minutes of fairly smart but hard nosed football!
Now Ottawa and they should not be underestimated.
Go Riders Go

ed ohmnes

Yeah, I loved bridges sidearm sling,  whatever gets it done , go riders. 

Iconic SR

This is what I saw from Bridge on Saturday:
- more confidence
- read the D better than before
- more athletic ability to escape and run/throw
- pinpoint passing, with authority
- hunger to win
- class (when asked about 2 starting QBs in Riderville) 

There are no red flags here. He's the future.

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This is what I saw from Bridge on Saturday:
- more confidence
- read the D better than before
- more athletic ability to escape and run/throw
- pinpoint passing, with authority
- hunger to win
- class (when asked about 2 starting QBs in Riderville)

There are no red flags here. He's the future.
Biggest thing for me was not throwing into a crowd.  My biggest issue was that he was trying to force stuff in the past.. ..even with a lead.  If he can continue like this....great....if he reverts to that....no....it was plain bad.  I'd also like to see him boot or hit crackdowns a bit...but that comes with experience. 

Iconic SR

BB definitely seems to have matured quite a bit since the beginning of the season. Also love seeing how he uses his height to throw above and then down and behind the pass rush, or how he can place the ball well with height in the end zone corners. KG has so much to offer the younger guys and I'm glad we have this tandem where we are right now
 


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