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Great! next up is Pat and his partner and the board will be solid.


Back to TV Ratings. I am hearing from a reliable source that ESPN is firing all the soccer staff and joining up with local press to cover the sport. With TV ratings poor on that network they are going to have no choice to rethink their marketing partnership. similar to TSN. Likely, they are not paying much if anything for MLS tv rights, and how can they continue to struggle with no interest.

They are trying everything, including moving the games to TSN2.

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Very interesting news for sports broadcasting. At worst yesterday we held discussions with executives and we discussed the new platform for streaming services.

Not going to get into all the details but according to top insiders, they believe services such as NetFlix by 2021 will either not exist or be only specialty providers. The first sign will arrive as early as 2018 where the cost for these services and pay to view will be aligned.

The outlook is too bleak for them to compete with the major networks such as CBS, ABC, FOX, NBC. 
Netflix has done well in reruns and watching archive filmography by their associates.

However the returns have been nulled due to federal advertising laws. Netflix will be charging very high fees soon that majority will have no means to pay for them.

The next big thing will be OTA HD feeds that in the United States have become more popular,especially for sports and rumor has it that ESPN will be the first cable subscription run station which is owned by Disney/ABC to make the move.

Regional ESPN has always been their goal. They have already made their websites such, next will be television.

PTBO Dave

http://3downnation.com/2017/08/09/blue-jays-tv-ratings-even-cfl/

Blue Jays TV ratings down even more than the CFL
"Meanwhile, a strong performance by Toronto FC has led to a spike in the team’s ratings, with games on TSN/CTV averaging 93,000 viewers this year in terms of total audience, compared to 59,000 over the same time period last season – a jump of over 57 per cent.

Toronto FC (12-3-8) is currently leading the Eastern Conference and MLS standings."

Week 7:
Thursday
Calgary at Toronto: 444,000
Friday
Winnipeg at Ottawa: 513,000
Hamilton at Edmonton: 658,000
Saturday
Saskatchewan at B.C.: 533,000

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http://3downnation.com/2017/08/09/blue-jays-tv-ratings-even-cfl/

Blue Jays TV ratings down even more than the CFL
"Meanwhile, a strong performance by Toronto FC has led to a spike in the team’s ratings, with games on TSN/CTV averaging 93,000 viewers this year in terms of total audience, compared to 59,000 over the same time period last season – a jump of over 57 per cent.

Toronto FC (12-3-8) is currently leading the Eastern Conference and MLS standings."

Week 7:
Thursday
Calgary at Toronto: 444,000
Friday
Winnipeg at Ottawa: 513,000
Hamilton at Edmonton: 658,000
Saturday
Saskatchewan at B.C.: 533,000
TFC was top team last year also. 
TFC is not getting 93k avg. Trust me on that. Blue Jays are doing strong #'s. CFL is doing very, very good.

PTBO Dave

http://3downnation.com/2017/08/09/blue-jays-tv-ratings-even-cfl/

Blue Jays TV ratings down even more than the CFL
"Meanwhile, a strong performance by Toronto FC has led to a spike in the team’s ratings, with games on TSN/CTV averaging 93,000 viewers this year in terms of total audience, compared to 59,000 over the same time period last season – a jump of over 57 per cent.

Toronto FC (12-3-8) is currently leading the Eastern Conference and MLS standings."

Week 7:
Thursday
Calgary at Toronto: 444,000
Friday
Winnipeg at Ottawa: 513,000
Hamilton at Edmonton: 658,000
Saturday
Saskatchewan at B.C.: 533,000
TFC was top team last year also.
TFC is not getting 93k avg. Trust me on that. Blue Jays are doing strong #'s. CFL is doing very, very good.
Just to clarify, this is originally Neely's post from the CFL talk forum, and I just moved it here.
About the 93k average, it does suggest that the 93k is the average total audience, not the average audience. Does that mean 93k tune in on average to watch some part of the game but not all while the average watching the game at any given time would be less than that?

The Last Word

It works out to 93,000 average over the course of the entire game.

Disappointing to see the CFL's numbers down from last year especially since the Blue Jays have been out of contention for over a month and have seen a drop in their ratings.  You would hope that some casuals would flip over to the Jays game but all indications are that they are not.

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No this is not average audience, trust me. TFC has not gotten anything over 150k this season to make it average if few games have gotten as low as 50k.

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According to Numeris post release on Friday. the following information was released.


Toronto Raptors (NBA) had 150k or less 12 times on SportsNet.... That number is staggering.
TFC (MLS) had 50k or less 4 times this season.
Toronto Blue Jays had 500k or less 24 times this season


Shocking how poor Raptors #'s. According to the info. NBA games not including the Raptors are more watched on TSN/SportsNet. Which is not a good sign for the Raptors for the future. I knew baseball wasn't that popular in Canada, but when LeBron retires. I think the NBA is in serious trouble on both sides.

Also. Once TFC plays more seasons and the fandom habits change. MLS could seriously be in trouble for survival. Kansas City MLS team tv rating last week was 12k. How is this even possible? yikes.

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Continued.

TSN is clearly the more popular network among fans across Canada. However while SportsNet is struggling for airtime survival and subscribers. Thus biggest reason why TV numbers are lower than that they should be. 

The CBC is in prime position to make a play as CBC receives the highest rated sports rating for the same sport airing on other channels.

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/eh-game/great-canadian-ratings-report--tsn-rules-on-nhl-deadline-day-143515821.html




you can see clearly how CBC is more important to the sports than the others, and is why its important for the CFL to get back on the CBC

TravelPat1

Since this is about both ratings and tennis I'm posting this in both threads. 

The young guns drew a record tennis audience for Sportsnet - which has to thrill the tennis people in Canada and in the ATP!

The Saturday night semi-final between 18 year old Shapovalov and 20 year old Sverev drew an average audience of 488,200 on Sportsnet, peaking at 741,600 with a total reach of 1.46 million. And that is not even including the French language numbers which I'm sure were good with the event in Montreal drawing record crowds there.  

Over 216,000 attended the week long event in Montreal also a record.  

http://media.sportsnet.ca/2017/08/rogers-cup-semifinal-between-shapovalov-and-zverev-is-most-watched-tennis-match-ever-on-sportsnet/

TravelPat1

The French language ratings even better for the Shapolavov/Sverez matchup.  A peak of 777,000 and an average audience of 550,000 on TVA Sports.  

So combined English and French average rating over a million. That's quite the rating for tennis.

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Sunday Aug 5th

Canada Summer games 160k

TFC vs DC United 45k (local #'s southern ontario including Mississauga little over 30k. which means nobody is watching TFC soccer across Canada)

Get this. DC United Local tv ratings on Channel 8 news was just little over 5,000....... To put that into perspective. Georgetown Hoyas lacrosse received 25k local rating in April.

Not sure how long until TSN puts MLS soccer only on TSN on demand.
4 MLS matches last week got tv audience average of 20k or lower............... CFL beat MLS (3) times this month and what is staggering is that the CFL beat a Los Angeles market sports team by double digits 2x this month.

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BLUE JAYS

Friday     vs Cubs 450k
Saturday vs Cubs 590k
Sunday   vs Cubs 660k


TFC

Saturday vs Chicago 55k

WHITECAPS

Saturday vs Houston NR (likely due to irregular counting. So the # was very, very, very low)


Paolo X

Please continue have a positive discussion in this thread guys so that we don't have to see it locked too. Can you start with the CFL ratings in this thread now please?

And as always, when quoting ratings please continue to cite all sources. And if different people have different sources, let's not make a big deal out of it either like in that locked thread.
Best Regards, Paolo

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Last night's @Wpg_BlueBombers vs. @MTLAlouettes double overtime thriller averaged 714,000 viewers nationally on @TSN_Sports & @RDSca. #CFL
 


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