Killer91

He let Collaros come out to start the second half.
Should have been pulled in second quarter, maybe sooner.

habcat

And he punts with 10 seconds left?

ottawacat

Quote from: "Killer91"
He let Collaros come out to start the second half.
Should have been pulled in second quarter, maybe sooner.
I agree with "sooner."  Like 2 or 3 games ago would have been the right time.

Crash

I said it in the game thread and I'll say it here. Anyone that thinks this is on the qb it so out of touch you're better off just not posting.

The backup qb has always been the most popular player on the team but the hate for Collaros is becoming absurd. This team (especially on O) severely lacks talent. Look no further than last year's week 1 receivers and who we marched out there last night.
SJ Green and Duron Carter are making NFL style catches and i can't even name our starters from week to week.

In 2003 Ticat fans were so done with Danny McManus and the fact that he was over the hill....our best receiver was Andrew English. In 2004 we signed some receivers and he threw 5000 yards and 29 TDs.

Jeremiah Masoli is a nice QB. A career back up that is prone to fumbles and ints. Let's not pretend we have Tom Brady sitting there and Austin is too foolish to see it.

Austin however is to blame for having no talent on offense that scares anyone. After all it's his front office that let this happen. Right now McDaniel/Grant/Giguere would look better along side Tasker than this.

Killer91

Quote from: "Crash"
I said it in the game thread and I'll say it here. Anyone that thinks this is on the qb it so out of touch you're better off just not posting.

The backup qb has always been the most popular player on the team but the hate for Collaros is becoming absurd. This team (especially on O) severely lacks talent. Look no further than last year's week 1 receivers and who we marched out there last night.
SJ Green and Duron Carter are making NFL style catches and i can't even name our starters from week to week.

In 2003 Ticat fans were so done with Danny McManus and the fact that he was over the hill....our best receiver was Andrew English. In 2004 we signed some receivers and he threw 5000 yards and 29 TDs.

Jeremiah Masoli is a nice QB. A career back up that is prone to fumbles and ints. Let's not pretend we have Tom Brady sitting there and Austin is too foolish to see it.

Austin however is to blame for having no talent on offense that scares anyone. After all it's his front office that let this happen. Right now McDaniel/Grant/Giguere would look better along side Tasker than this.
I agree with you but at some point you have to mix it up.  It is just a sign of Austin's stubborness and how they have let him get out of touch with reality.  Please, if anything play back up to have him prepared if there is an injury to zach.

Crash

Quote from: "Killer91"
Quote from: "Crash"
I said it in the game thread and I'll say it here. Anyone that thinks this is on the qb it so out of touch you're better off just not posting.

The backup qb has always been the most popular player on the team but the hate for Collaros is becoming absurd. This team (especially on O) severely lacks talent. Look no further than last year's week 1 receivers and who we marched out there last night.
SJ Green and Duron Carter are making NFL style catches and i can't even name our starters from week to week.

In 2003 Ticat fans were so done with Danny McManus and the fact that he was over the hill....our best receiver was Andrew English. In 2004 we signed some receivers and he threw 5000 yards and 29 TDs.

Jeremiah Masoli is a nice QB. A career back up that is prone to fumbles and ints. Let's not pretend we have Tom Brady sitting there and Austin is too foolish to see it.

Austin however is to blame for having no talent on offense that scares anyone. After all it's his front office that let this happen. Right now McDaniel/Grant/Giguere would look better along side Tasker than this.
I agree with you but at some point you have to mix it up.  It is just a sign of Austin's stubborness and how they have let him get out of touch with reality.  Please, if anything play back up to have him prepared if there is an injury to zach.

No...its a sign that we are likely worse off with him in there.
You don't "mix it up" for the sake of it if he isn't the problem. He eventually switched to Masoli, who by the way did nothing against Calgarys backups.
More proof that who plays qb is not the problem with this team.

ottawacat

IMO, Collaros is not THE problem, but his poor play so far this season is certainly a good-sized piece of the Cat's problem on offence.  While I respect, and always find interest in reading, the opinions of others who see it differently, I'll point out that both panelists on last night's game telecast, whose experience I certainly respect, made post-game comments which would suggest their opinions, on his play, are similar to mine.

blackandgld

Call me fortunate but the last play that i caught live before putting on the PVR was 2nd and 2 Cats. (Went to watch the UFC) Score 0-0 and Thyms received a tough ball on 2nd and 2 and couldnt hall it in. A first down that you must make early in the ball game. The play before that was 1st and 5 and #89 ran a wide 3 yard out that he made a tough long contested catch on. It is this kind of play calling that i am sure helped lead to the disaster that was.
If it ain't broke don't fix it. If it is broke you had better fix it.
Good Bye to our DC who has had 5 consecutive horrible results.

Killer91

Gable is actually a talented offensive threat and it was shown briefly last night but he only uses him in to block predominantly.  Actually benched him the last game for the flash in the pan Sheurerman.

Killer91

He doesn't call a pass play more than 3 yards down field no matter what the situation. 3 x 3 = 9.
While on the subject, he hires an offensive co-ordinator who he doesn't let touch the play book.

DJohnson1954

2nd and 7, make the pass at least 8 yards or even 6 not 3 or 4 yards.. When the ball it caught make it in 1st down territory not needing 3 or more yards YAC to get the first down!

safetyblitz

Quote from: "Crash"
Right now McDaniel/Grant/Giguere would look better along side Tasker than this.

McDaniel was released under Bellefeuille in 2011, so you can't pin that on Austin.

Giguere has been under 500 yards every year since he left Hamilton.

I'll agree with you about Grant, though. I'm a big fan of Grant.

Count Floyd

Quote from: "ottawacat"
IMO, Collaros is not THE problem, but his poor play so far this season is certainly a good-sized piece of the Cat's problem on offence.  While I respect, and always find interest in reading, the opinions of others who see it differently, I'll point out that both panelists on last night's game telecast, whose experience I certainly respect, made post-game comments which would suggest their opinions, on his play, are similar to mine.

Agreed.  There are other, glaring problems on this team.

When Finch returned the kick for a TD, that's when the team needed Collaros, who is their leader on O, to step up & respond.  He didn't.  Instead, you could almost feel the team deflate after that.

I love Collaros & thought when we signed him that we were finally going to have the kind of team we were all dreaming we could have.  I don't know what his problem is, but it's pretty clear there's SOMETHING going on with him.  Replacing him with Masoli immediately after may have kept us in the game if he managed to move the ball.

That being said, Tyms & Elliott were both invisible out there.  Kind of hard to win in this league without quality receivers.

Killer91

He's going to get Tasker killed.  See Tasker thread.

Killer91

Quote from: "Crash"
Quote from: "Killer91"
Quote from: "Crash"
I said it in the game thread and I'll say it here. Anyone that thinks this is on the qb it so out of touch you're better off just not posting.

The backup qb has always been the most popular player on the team but the hate for Collaros is becoming absurd. This team (especially on O) severely lacks talent. Look no further than last year's week 1 receivers and who we marched out there last night.
SJ Green and Duron Carter are making NFL style catches and i can't even name our starters from week to week.

In 2003 Ticat fans were so done with Danny McManus and the fact that he was over the hill....our best receiver was Andrew English. In 2004 we signed some receivers and he threw 5000 yards and 29 TDs.

Jeremiah Masoli is a nice QB. A career back up that is prone to fumbles and ints. Let's not pretend we have Tom Brady sitting there and Austin is too foolish to see it.

Austin however is to blame for having no talent on offense that scares anyone. After all it's his front office that let this happen. Right now McDaniel/Grant/Giguere would look better along side Tasker than this.
I agree with you but at some point you have to mix it up.  It is just a sign of Austin's stubborness and how they have let him get out of touch with reality.  Please, if anything play back up to have him prepared if there is an injury to zach.

No...its a sign that we are likely worse off with him in there.
You don't "mix it up" for the sake of it if he isn't the problem. He eventually switched to Masoli, who by the way did nothing against Calgarys backups.
More proof that who plays qb is not the problem with this team.
We need to let Zach work this out a little more. Take as much time as he needs to find a rhythm.  No hurry. If Austin was serious, he would have had him in the second quarter with 3 mins left to get loose for the second half.  That was disrespectful to both guys leaving  Zach in that long.  Did anyone see the 2015 EF?
 


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