JimmytheGreek

Quote from: "Abendschan"
Character is clearly setting in with this years team, perhaps that's what has been missing since the 2013 Cup win, or even before then. Yes I agree there are plays where crazy things happen, but the Rider team chirps each other up/push to make interesting better plays. Chris Jones brings this, players are happy/cheerful/believe in each other.

Note - Hope all is well with JimmytheGreek.

Lol JimmytheGreek is doing just fine thanks. So you were saying that the team is playing with character? Sure didn't show tonight. Loved Carter getting the Stamps all fired up before the game as if they needed it.  

The team beat a bad Hamilton team and then got schooled tonight.

JimmytheGreek

Yes but where was this character that Jones brings to this team? Sure they got going in the second half but I also think the Stamps had a bit of a snooze after coasting to a 17 point lead in the first half. Once the Riders got within one score the Stamps woke up again and never looked back. Honestly if Bo was sharp the Stamps get at least two more majors as Bo missed a couple of wide open receivers with no one around them ( yeah that was happening all night I know) So again if Bo was sharp this game would have been a major blow out.

StormRider1

on the bright side, 14 more games... miss play-offs... The Jones experiment ends... this was  a sad looking team, there are some really bright spots here, but lots of bad... our D still sucks, the front O line like last year... can't stop crap... and again.. out QB  has to run for his life.... ohh yah... DD was doing that all last year. but he was a average QB... Jones Bite me... I will say it again... cheap pay, cheap players, cheap team... BC will slaughter us.... this was a good test for the season... time will tell...  :roll:

Squish

I wish I could say I was surprised by tonight's result. We hung in there for a while though, and if we are down to counting moral victories again, that 3rd quarter was really good. However overall, we aren't in the same class as the rest of the west save for maybe Winnipeg.

Is it a Jones thing? Well, I guess so, since he holds pretty much every important position with the club. I suppose I still have patience and we should be nowhere near talk of firing or anything like that. But patience is not infinite, nor will Jones time here.

I must admit though, I am sometimes having trouble seeing exactly where this team has improved over last year or the year before.

depopulationINC

Shocked how flat they came out in this one.  I know it is always a risk out of a bye but that was pretty bad...looked like I thought they would in the 2nd, which was equal....zero adjust on O in the first half is disappointing though and the fact they did not gameplan for a returning hughes is baffling....everyone knows he is  game change.  The OL was night and day between 1st and 2nd half.

The missed offside by the refs was pretty brutal...it was pretty plain as day.  Not sure how you see one side jump but not the other over by 4 yards.

ed ohmnes

Well Calgary seems to be doing fine without jones, Edmonton just keeps on winning without jones, so what seems to be the problem with the riders, maybe jones was just always on a good team, and never on one like he's built here. And here we are stuck without a quarterback.

GC Bound

I just keep remembering how last season started and my feeling that all the other teams were getting better and winning games early in the season and we the fans kept saying that the Riders were almost winning every game they were in and then suddenly it was like 1 and 8 or some such thing.
Well now here we are sitting at 1 and 3 last in the west, with everyone most likely thinking Toronto will be a win for the Riders playing at home. IF not then 1 and 4 looking way to much like last season.
IMHO, The Riders need to be winning more games then the are for me the think they are any better then last year.
Just how well is Chris Jones doing at building a team that can win! :cowboy:

StormRider1

Quote from: "Abendschan"
Quote from: "JimmytheGreek "
Quote from: "Abendschan"
Character is clearly setting in with this years team, perhaps that's what has been missing since the 2013 Cup win, or even before then. Yes I agree there are plays where crazy things happen, but the Rider team chirps each other up/push to make interesting better plays. Chris Jones brings this, players are happy/cheerful/believe in each other.

Note - Hope all is well with JimmytheGreek.

Lol JimmytheGreek is doing just fine thanks. So you were saying that the team is playing with character? Sure didn't show tonight. Loved Carter getting the Stamps all fired up before the game as if they needed it.  

The team beat a bad Hamilton team and then got schooled tonight.
All teams are getting to Glen, Calgary D delivered big time. Rider team needs a QB that can run an scramble I think.

We had one, but Jones said he was an average QB....... go figure!!

Squish

Jones was a good DC at his last couple stops, and apparently a good head coach in Edmonton when they won the cup in 2015. Enough that it got him the label of some kind of infallible football genius. John Murphy was also touted as the league's premiere personnel guy becuse of his work in Calgary But as you said, Edmonton is doing fine without Jones, and Calgary is obviously doing fine without Murphy, and we are sucking with both of them together.

Name a Murhpy find for the Riders that is at or near top of the league in anything. Yeah, we'd be talking rookies or sophomores, but are there any that other teams might covet? Certainly not at quarterback, the position with which we've decided to put in Murphy's hands before we were ready to.

I'm beginning to think we've been sold a bill of goods with this bunch. Big ego's that thought they were the best in their previous clubs, but in actuality, were depending on others as well to have success. Firing people? No, thats not really practical at this point, salary concerns and all that. But jeez, how bout some kind of shakeup that inidcates that we are not standing pat watching the team lose and saying "Oh well, fans are showing up anyway, we just need patience". Hire a DC maybe, change up the OC maybe... a big trade maybe (do we have anyone other teams want?).

It all adds up to another lost season for us, which makes 3 or 4 in a row now, and I'm not sure how much more patience or loyalty Rider nation will have in the face of skyrocketing ticket prices.

robsawatsky

Quote from: "nythril"
First time in 50 years I have turned a game off ... the missed off side by, 5 feet and no call on the late hit out of bounds was the last straw. Love the riders but can't watch that nonsense ..

If you can't stand watching due to mistakes by officials how can you stand watching due to mistakes by the players?

Squish

To blame this loss on officiating is pretty much ridiculous. We were manhandled, and frankly, the score flattered us a bit. Yeah, there were some ticky-tack calls, and head-scratcher non-calls, there always are. The bigger, more glaring issue, is just how bad our team looks right now.

nythril

Quote from: robsawatsky
Quote from: nythril
First time in 50 years I have turned a game off ... the missed off side by, 5 feet and no call on the late hit out of bounds was the last straw. Love the riders but can't watch that nonsense ..

If you can't stand watching due to mistakes by officials how can you stand watching due to mistakes by the players?
As a fan I can tolerate poor play of the home team .... but  it both.

The team lost the game all by themselves..... didn't need help.

At no point have I blamed anyone for the loss. It's getting old when people can't even post in their own team areas about frustrations with the game and any aspect of it.

When dumb adds dumber to form a tandem it's just not watchable.  Dumb didn't need help.in stinking the joint up ...  you must be a rider fan posting in this thread so surely you must understand that at some point when you turn off the tv it was a result of one last thing in a list of things that was the last nerve - also as a rider fans why read into that anything more than frustration of a night when nothing went there way .... including team effort?

nythril

Quote from: Squish
To blame this loss on officiating is pretty much ridiculous. We were manhandled, and frankly, the score flattered us a bit. Yeah, there were some ticky-tack calls, and head-scratcher non-calls, there always are. The bigger, more glaring issue, is just how bad our team looks right now.
I didn't see the post were anyone blamed the officials on the loss ???? There are a few critical of some off calls but I didn't see any posts suggesting that it would have changed the outcome - did  I miss a post ?

ed ohmnes

No you pretty much summed it up.

Squish

Just found it odd that someone would be so fired up by some supposed poor reffing, to not see the incredibly poor performance of our team instead. Of the list of problems with that game, reffing was waaay down the list.
 


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