depopulationINC

http://edmontonjournal.com/sports/footb ... n-concerns

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“After a lot of thought and prayer, I have decided to call it a career and retire from the CFL,” the six-foot-two, 210-pound native of Medicine Hat posted on Twitter. “I know I could still play a couple of years. However, with how my body and more importantly my head have been acting up in the last couple years due to injuries, I feel that long-term health and quality of life are my priority now.”

Another player who balances the importance of life after football and concussions.  The attention to the issue seems to be helping players better recognize when it is time to walk away from the game.

Lyle B. Style

Sad. Very above average CFL WR - another one that got away from the Bombers who apparently had their own bird dog being a season ticket holder for the Saskatchewan Flunkies!
WAITING FOR A  MIRACLE - 27 YEARS, COUNTING!

jamie

I love football but often wonder why anyone would play for the kind of money the CFL pays on average for a career span of about 4-5 years if that on average. No guaranteed contracts, reduced often in mid stream
Have you seen the shape most football players are in at 50? Walk like 85 year olds.

-Hammer-

Quote from: "jamie"
I love football but often wonder why anyone would play for the kind of money the CFL pays on average for a career span of about 4-5 years if that on average. No guaranteed contracts, reduced often in mid stream
Have you seen the shape most football players are in at 50? Walk like 85 year olds.

As far as why? Well...I hate to say it, but a lot of players buy into the dellusion that the CFL is the speed bump to the NFL. Don't get me wrong, a lot of CFL players graduate to the NFL and make their million, but they aren't the majority. Also, a good chunk of them love the game, and will gladly take a pay cut to play for cash. It is still a game, fundamentally. Last, some simply make bad choices when they go to universities and need to play. How many Football players go to NCAA schools and take General Arts, Communications, a lame duck Business degree or Sports medicine? You need confidence if you are going to play pro sports, but too often that confidence can be an undoing when the time comes to put sports aside, if you don't make it.

As far as the money involved? I believe the estimated average is around 80,000. It's a bit skewed though as QBs and high end stars draw big bank, and rookies have a rookie contract only worth around 50,000 (unless you are on PR, at which point you are struggling).

So during your rookie years, you are making a decent wage, if you stick around, you are likely making a better wage, but not enough to retire on by far. You still need to consider life after Football, which to be honest is why a lot of parents and kids aren't getting into the game anymore. Contact sports, paticulairly ones that can create concussions, have long term health risk associated. There is a reason 55 is the average life expectancy of a NFL player.

It's espcially bad in Football, frankly because of linemen. Linemen carry a lot of weight, both in muscle and fat, and that is a health risk. Too often Linemen end up with knee issues, due to weight and the fact they are pushing with their legs, their body weight and their opponents body weight, every down. It's going to wear your knees down.

Then when you add concussions to that mix, it becomes far worse. CTE suffers basically have microsopic calcium deposits in their brain, that block how your brain communicates with itself and the body. That in turn can lead to all kinds of not only emotional and mental issues, but physical ones as well.

Then, a lot of the damage cause to your body in general results in chronic pain, and then with that, you have the host of issues with come from long term pain management and it's medications.

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depopulationINC

Yeah....I know from my perspective I have issues that stem from concussions years later.  I no longer get random dizzy spells from leaning the wrong way too fast...and my short term memory seems to have improved a lot even though it will take me meeting most people a dozen times before I will remember their name (it is embarrassing because I try different ways to remember them but don't...the wife is aware of this and always says 'hello Jane, hello John' or whatever when we see people and doe it right off the hop because she knows it is iffy that I will be able to remember.  People don't understand my history, obviously, and I am sure they would be offended if they knew I did not remember...and it sure as heck is not through a conscious effort to improve on it)...but I do have some issues I didn't have before them still.  I get what I like to call "star spotting" which is basically little black stars that float through my vision and I get glazy.  My wife knows when I am having them and they are only about 20 seconds and are less and less frequent.  I used to get them several time a week, and now I only get them maybe every few months, though sometimes they will come in spurts.  It scares the crap out of her because she knows what it is.  I also get periods where I am almost in hibernation and will sleep 16-18 hours a day for about 8 - 9 days,  Sometimes upping my workouts will help with that, but not always.  We both know when those are coming because my mood changes.  The best I can describe it is almost like being bipolar...except I am fully aware of what is going on with it and always active in trying to stem it.  I have learned a few tricks that seem to help with me, including a heavier K2 diet when it is coming on.  The most frustrating thing for me is that I am now horrid for seeing some things through...I intend to, but it often seems like the "squirrel" thing was created just for me.  That is something that she has learned she just needs to be understanding on and knows how to talk to me about it because if not approached well it can set me off sometimes.  Also, when I need to get something done I now set deadlines in writing...that has helped draw my focus because I can't stand missing actual deadlines.  Might sound funny setting deadlines in writing for tasks for yourself...but it helps for me.  For the most part I feel "normal" now but not always...I say that as I am presently in a period of hibernation mode...but overall it is true.  The game is something tough to let go of...it is a hunger that needs fed for many people.

BigJoeM

Quote from: "jamie"
I love football but often wonder why anyone would play for the kind of money the CFL pays on average for a career span of about 4-5 years if that on average. No guaranteed contracts, reduced often in mid stream
Have you seen the shape most football players are in at 50? Walk like 85 year olds.

That would go for football at all levels why play high school , junior , university  and pee wee .  Injuries can leave you crippled at any point . Why do people pay to ski double black diamonds ?

 $50,000 or $60,000 to play maybe 180 minutes of contact football a season possibly on the high side maybe 45 minutes on the lower side probably a lot less as some don't even get on the field for anything but special teams in a game seems pretty good . That salary is for the unproven on the roster . Plus they get perks .

  I think for the Canadian University player who gets a good degree and can move onto a $50,000 or $65 ,000  to start at a job working in the field of their degree is the guy who is hard to keep . I think this is why it's harder to get a Canadian University QB to stick it out as 3rd string if he has options and wants to start his career in the field he spent 4 or 5 years working on and paying for unlike the ones who road their full scholarships to school .

http://thevarsity.ca/2016/10/31/athleti ... in-canada/
There was a man who had nothing to hide so he didn\'t care about privacy and I knew another who had nothing to say so he didn\'t care about free speech .

cflisthebest

Good old Willis

Goes on Twitter and publicly questions the validity of Nates injury claims.

Says he thinks he quit due to salary reduction.

Pathetic act by Willis
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Migs

Quote from: "cflisthebest"
Good old Willis

Goes on Twitter and publicly questions the validity of Nates injury claims.

Says he thinks he quit due to salary reduction.

Pathetic act by Willis

Eskimos are a dumpster fire.

Grover

With mouth pieces like Willis, it is no wonder Hervey didn't want media access in the ESK's room!  :?

Here is the tweet from Odell Willis on Coehoorn's retirement

Odell Willis ? @KuntryKane205
U take ur (30k)bonus and retire then LIE talking bout ur head and ur health. Boy, u just mad u took a pay cut! Plus u soft #YeahIsaidit
3:41 PM - 11 Apr 2017

and the response from Coehoorn

Nathan Coehoorn ? @NateCoehoorn
@KuntryKane205 Hey bro. Sorry you feel that way. But its not like that at all. I actually had a bonus coming on May 1st but decided to retire before that
6:31 PM - 11 Apr 2017
 
 Nathan Coehoorn ? @NateCoehoorn
@KuntryKane205 It was great being your teammate and winning a Grey Cup with you.Thanks for the memories. Go win another one! GO ESKS GO!
6:32 PM - 11 Apr 2017
 
 Nathan Coehoorn ? @NateCoehoorn
Also I would never retire off of how much money I was getting paid. There is a lot more to life to me than just money.
6:34 PM - 11 Apr 2017
 
 Nathan Coehoorn ? @NateCoehoorn
@KuntryKane205 Health is a huge priority to me. When I didn’t even know where I was after I dove for that ball against sask week 2 that was not fun.
6:36 PM - 11 Apr 2017
 

http://3downnation.com/2017/04/11/odell ... etirement/

Thanks to @Doc_Dave for sig

canadianfootballfan

I think it's shameful that lowbrow dipshits like Drew Edwards think of tweets as news.  He's truly shameless.

sambo42

Its too bad he had to retire... all the sports leagues are guilty of improperly diagnosing concussions... I hope that they wake up and realize that the CFL ain't your granddaddy's league anymore...

depopulationINC

Quote from: "sambo42"
Its too bad he had to retire... all the sports leagues are guilty of improperly diagnosing concussions... I hope that they wake up and realize that the CFL ain't your granddaddy's league anymore...

There will always be ways to improve, but things are progressing and that is of course good to see.  We see more penalties and fines with the intent to get players more conscious of their actions, there have been multiple helmet changes over the past 5 seasons aimed at improving that tech in the CFL, specialists attending the games.  These are all good steps to take, with many more to come as it all evolves.

GHT120

Quote from: "sambo42"
I... all the sports leagues are guilty of improperly diagnosing concussions... I hope that they wake up and realize that the CFL ain't your granddaddy's league anymore...

Real problem in NHL/NFL/CFL is that, while concussions can occur from bad luck on an absolutely clean play, the leagues are  not really truly doing anything to discourage the reckless, dangerous head shots/contact that results in what I will call "preventable" concussions.
Let's  not confuse FACTS with OPINIONS

brianjoxx

Quote from: "GHT120"
Quote from: "sambo42"
I... all the sports leagues are guilty of improperly diagnosing concussions... I hope that they wake up and realize that the CFL ain't your granddaddy's league anymore...

Real problem in NHL/NFL/CFL is that, while concussions can occur from bad luck on an absolutely clean play, the leagues are  not really truly doing anything to discourage the reckless, dangerous head shots/contact that results in what I will call "preventable" concussions.

Sorry !!!!!But nonsense. Football, hockey are fairly rough. Bur rugby, boxing, UFC are rougher.
POINT is concussions have happen and WILL happen in the past and future,
.
Medical knowledge grows with time but still hard to eliminate any injury. SUBMIT your plans to those leagues to stop concussions or injures. Its the players in battle in a split second decision. Hits happen and will continue.

depopulationINC

Quote from: "Grover"
With mouth pieces like Willis, it is no wonder Hervey didn't want media access in the ESK's room!  :?

Here is the tweet from Odell Willis on Coehoorn's retirement

Odell Willis ? @KuntryKane205
U take ur (30k)bonus and retire then LIE talking bout ur head and ur health. Boy, u just mad u took a pay cut! Plus u soft #YeahIsaidit
3:41 PM - 11 Apr 2017

and the response from Coehoorn

Nathan Coehoorn ? @NateCoehoorn
@KuntryKane205 Hey bro. Sorry you feel that way. But its not like that at all. I actually had a bonus coming on May 1st but decided to retire before that
6:31 PM - 11 Apr 2017
 
 Nathan Coehoorn ? @NateCoehoorn
@KuntryKane205 It was great being your teammate and winning a Grey Cup with you.Thanks for the memories. Go win another one! GO ESKS GO!
6:32 PM - 11 Apr 2017
 
 Nathan Coehoorn ? @NateCoehoorn
Also I would never retire off of how much money I was getting paid. There is a lot more to life to me than just money.
6:34 PM - 11 Apr 2017
 
 Nathan Coehoorn ? @NateCoehoorn
@KuntryKane205 Health is a huge priority to me. When I didn’t even know where I was after I dove for that ball against sask week 2 that was not fun.
6:36 PM - 11 Apr 2017
 

http://3downnation.com/2017/04/11/odell ... etirement/


Scumbag move by Willis.  Big strides have been made to get players more open to accepting the reality of these and talking about it and even admitting they have an issue.   That don't need flack like this.  It helps nobody
 


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