vjcos

Trade his rights to the Als.and grab a Draft pick and a good Canadian starter.

Count Floyd

Can you imagine this guy in the locker room?

Get what you can out of Kavis for him now.

Crash

Trade his rights to the Als.and grab a Draft pick and a good Canadian starter.
Fixed.

2ez

If our coach truly believes he could be the greatest CFL player of all time ( I still shake my head that that was actually said to the press) then why not pay him starter money?  I think its crap, but our coach thinks he could be the GREATEST EVER.

I say he will get paid $200,000 plus incentives. I think if they pay him a base salary that is close to what Masoli made last year,  then that would still meet their ridiculous demands (technically speaking). I will be shocked if they don't make it happen at this point.
That's the goddamn scary part right now ... they're out of their gourd if they sign him but this is the Hamilton Tiger-Cats, we've fallen ass backwards into success three times in the last 45 years (Okay 72 doesn't count as ass backwards but you get my point ... two times in 44 years, not much better)

I was down if he was down to be the backup, pretty clear that isn't the case and was obvious from the start he wasn't coming here to sit behind Masoli.

Abort Mission Johnny Football.

2ez

Trade his rights to the Als.and grab a Draft pick and a good Canadian starter.
Fixed.
Trade him for the rights to Nik Lewis so he can retire a Ti-Cat, it'd be worth it. 

ThomasE

See ya.
Let's turn our focus to finding a legitimate back up for Masoli and looking forward to this year's draft.

mr62cats

JM'S agent is right about the CFL'S archaic amateur protection rights rule extending into perpetuity.It sure as heck is restrictive and needs to be challenged.

Ticatsfan25

First time poster, but not new to the board.  Enjoy reading the commentary on here about my team.

If Manziel wants to get back on the field, and eventually the NFL, then he will be prepared to work his butt off for us or any other team he plays for.  If he works his butt off and returns to his NCAA form, learns the playbook, and takes it seriously then - as noted by professionals, including our own June Jones, Tillman, and Austin - he can be an incredible player.  His lack of "success" in the NFL was not because he wasn't good, but because of off-field issues.  Everyone knows that.  Oh and he played for the Browns.  Dont knock his NFL experience because he was part of an incredibly inept organization with little-to-no talent on their roster.  The Browns are doing worse without him when we talk about wins and losses so we can't sit back and say he flamed out because he wasn't good enough.

This all said, similar to VY in SK - and I read a lot about whether he was worth a contract given his age and when he last played - there is little to no risk in signing the guy to $500k/yr contract and getting him into camp.  He wants the money then he'd better learn the playbook, return to his form, and take it seriously.  And if he doesn't, cut his non-guaranteed contract and take the jersey money/website clicks/PR/USA exposure and run to the bank.  Plain and simple.  We dont know at this point if he is going to demand guaranteed money, but again, if he is serious about getting back on the field, taking a non-guaranteed contract (possibly with incentives) should be no issue.  Collaros is off the books and yeah Masoli got a raise, but they should be able to make it work.  I also wouldnt worry about going over the cap and being fined, if he's on the roster they will make that money back in all the extra revenue that he will bring to the table.

cats99

First time poster, but not new to the board.  Enjoy reading the commentary on here about my team.

If Manziel wants to get back on the field, and eventually the NFL, then he will be prepared to work his butt off for us or any other team he plays for.  If he works his butt off and returns to his NCAA form, learns the playbook, and takes it seriously then - as noted by professionals, including our own June Jones, Tillman, and Austin - he can be an incredible player.  His lack of "success" in the NFL was not because he wasn't good, but because of off-field issues.  Everyone knows that.  Oh and he played for the Browns.  Dont knock his NFL experience because he was part of an incredibly inept organization with little-to-no talent on their roster.  The Browns are doing worse without him when we talk about wins and losses so we can't sit back and say he flamed out because he wasn't good enough.

This all said, similar to VY in SK - and I read a lot about whether he was worth a contract given his age and when he last played - there is little to no risk in signing the guy to $500k/yr contract and getting him into camp.  He wants the money then he'd better learn the playbook, return to his form, and take it seriously.  And if he doesn't, cut his non-guaranteed contract and take the jersey money/website clicks/PR/USA exposure and run to the bank.  Plain and simple.  We dont know at this point if he is going to demand guaranteed money, but again, if he is serious about getting back on the field, taking a non-guaranteed contract (possibly with incentives) should be no issue.  Collaros is off the books and yeah Masoli got a raise, but they should be able to make it work.  I also wouldnt worry about going over the cap and being fined, if he's on the roster they will make that money back in all the extra revenue that he will bring to the table.
Good post : if it’s not a gaurenteed contract then at worst our organization and Jones are made to look like fools and Johnny and his career are done , finished he has more to lose then our team A BIG RISK COULD BRING A BIG REWARD 🏆
13 th man @ THF

ExPat

This all said, similar to VY in SK - and I read a lot about whether he was worth a contract given his age and when he last played - there is little to no risk in signing the guy to $500k/yr contract and getting him into camp.  
Welcome, Ticatsfan25.

One point I would make is that there is a downside to signing an unproven guy for so much money.  Despite what you said later about being OK with exceeding the salary cap, the team needs to at least try to fit all the pieces into an overall cap structure. 

It's a zero-sum game as far as the players are concerned.  If you pay starter money to two QBs, you'll have to find savings somewhere else.  This likely means foregoing proven free agents at various other positions - multiple free agents, in fact - and going with rookies.  We tried this strategy in 2017 for whatever reason and got burned.

If you then decide at the end of training camp to cut your QB loose, it's too late to go out and grab the best free agents, who will be locked in with other teams.  In other words, you would essentially be betting the season on Johnny's success.  That would be an interesting bet indeed.



Crash

We should play "Find Erik" 

stevehvh

Quick, re-sign Golson. 
"The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously."
- Hubert H. Humphrey

Blackrussian63

Crash

Note the final paragraph....

http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/johnny_manziel_promises_to_get_back_on_football_field_in_2018/s1_127_25405301
Would like to state the obvious for those "new to the forum" or lurking Americans.

The Manziel camp is in no position to issue any deadlines.

canadianfootballfan

The Ticats would do better with Glenn as #2.  Loads of CFL experience, and little to no ego.
 


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