Black and Gold

I agree with Schmenger, the best DB to ever suit up for the Ti-Cats is Less "Ball Hawk" Browne. He played 5 seasons in Hamilton, 3 in Winnipeg, 1 in Ottawa and 2 in BC.

Career Accomplishments include;

- CFL and all-pro records for most interceptions with 87
- Most interception return yards with 1,508
- Ranked 3rd in the CFL for career blocked kicks with 8
- 6 time CFL All Star; 85, 86, 90, 91, 92 & 94
-  Appeared in 4 Grey Cup games (1985, 1986, 1990 & 1994) winning the latter 3
-  Twice runner-up for the CFL's Most Outstanding Defensive Player Award
- Inducted into the CFHOF in 2002
- Voted  by TSN (in 2006) one of the CFL's top 50 players (#23) of the league's modern era

cats99

Next number change #2?!$🏈
Germany WC RUSSIA
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️+⭐️2018
🇩🇪

Grover

What about Les Brown ?
Forgot about him for some reason. Maybe deserves to be mentioned along with the other two.  I guess I was never thrilled that he played more years against us than with us.  

And bobo, I think if two guys were teammates then they are from the same “era”.  Unless it’s like a Dunigan/Calvillo situation, where one guy starts where the other leaves off.  Or Garney Henley (60-75) and David Shaw (75-86) - the one year they were teammates is insignificant.  
Pat thanks for mentioning Garney Henley, In my books he was the best ever.
To this day whenever I see another TiCat wearing #26 it just tears me apart.  >:(

Thanks to @Doc_Dave for sig

bobo82

I agree with Schmenger, the best DB to ever suit up for the Ti-Cats is Less "Ball Hawk" Browne. He played 5 seasons in Hamilton, 3 in Winnipeg, 1 in Ottawa and 2 in BC.

Career Accomplishments include;

- CFL and all-pro records for most interceptions with 87
- Most interception return yards with 1,508
- Ranked 3rd in the CFL for career blocked kicks with 8
- 6 time CFL All Star; 85, 86, 90, 91, 92 & 94
-  Appeared in 4 Grey Cup games (1985, 1986, 1990 & 1994) winning the latter 3
-  Twice runner-up for the CFL's Most Outstanding Defensive Player Award
- Inducted into the CFHOF in 2002
- Voted  by TSN (in 2006) one of the CFL's top 50 players (#23) of the league's modern era
I'd call Browne probably the 2nd best DB to ever suit up for the Ti-Cats in their history only behind the great Garney Henley BUT  Browne was definitely one of the best to ever suit up period over-all in CFL history . His career numbers and accomplishments you listed are totally off the charts and incredibly impressive to say the least .

I do have just one very small correction though in your bullet points of his career accomplishments .

Browne actually only appeared and played in 3 Grey Cup games in his career not 4 . Browne while he was selected as a CFL All Star in 86 unfortunately got injured in the final game of the East final against Toronto that year and missed playing in the Grey Cup . His replacement that day was Jim Rockford who was suiting up and activated off of the PR for his very first game as a Ti-Cat .  Ironically Rockford recovered a blocked punt early on in the game and scored a TD on the play . It turned out to be quite a debut for Rockford considering it was his first ever game played and who he was replacing in the lineup on that day .

15 GREY CUPS for HAMILTON BASED TEAMS
12,13,15,28,29,32,43,53,57,63,65,67,72,86,99

stevehvh

If we're talking about all time great Ticat DBs, to me number one without doubt is Garney Henley. More games and seasons played as a Ticat, more interceptions, more Grey Cups played and won, more all-star selections than anyone else. I'd rank him as the most outstanding player in Hamilton, period.

Less Browne was terrific also, and his accomplishments are awesome. But as noted, he played more seasons elsewhere than in Hamilton.

David Shaw was one of my favourites. 

We've been lucky to have some great ones in many different periods over the years... Those mentioned in this thread, plus others like Ted Page, Al Brenner, Lance Shields, and more. 

A somewhat unheralded one from years ago who I really liked was Lewis Porter. Played 8 years in the 1970s, all in Hamilton. He didn't have gaudy interception numbers, and his return yards were limited by the fact that there was no blocking on punt returns, but he was a fantastic cover man. His trademark was speed, and he had a lot of it. When everyone raved about how fast the Argo's Leon McQuay was, I saw Porter chase him and bring him down in a foot race in the open field from ten yards behind. Not many remember him now, but he'd be on my top DB list for sure.
"The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously."
- Hubert H. Humphrey

bobo82

If we're talking about all time great Ticat DBs, to me number one without doubt is Garney Henley.



We've been lucky to have some great ones in many different periods over the years... Those mentioned in this thread, plus others like Al Brenner

A somewhat unheralded one from years ago who I really liked was Lewis Porter . Played 8 years in the 1970s, all in Hamilton. 
And here is all 3 that you mentioned together in a game against that "Blew team" in our 72 Grey Cup season .  8)

#24 , #25 and #26 aka Porter , Brenner and Henley  :) Kinda sounds like a Law Firm !!!  :)



 

stevehvh

Awesome pic, bobo! You're a super researcher!

And there's number 25 receiving the "Brenner pass" as they called it... 15 INTs in a 14 game season! 45 years later and the record still stands, even though they play 18 games now!

bobo82

Awesome pic, bobo! You're a super researcher!

And there's number 25 receiving the "Brenner pass" as they called it... 15 INTs in a 14 game season! 45 years later and the record still stands, even though they play 18 games now!
Thanks Steve , much appreciated . Here is another old pic I found of your boy Lewis Porter .


Awesome vertical shown by #24 batting down a pass against Ottawa from once again the 72 season . 

The reason I say it's 72 is that the other player shown #33 is fellow DB Gerry Sternberg who only played 2 seasons with the team (71,72) . Here's a fun little known trivia fact for you about why it has to be from the 72 season.......In Porter's rookie season in 71 with the Cats he was used mainly on offence as a WR where he had 23 catches for 347 yds and 3 tds . The Cats converted him over to a full time DB the following season in 72 .  

Palmer

If we're talking about all time great Ticat DBs, to me number one without doubt is Garney Henley. More games and seasons played as a Ticat, more interceptions, more Grey Cups played and won, more all-star selections than anyone else. I'd rank him as the most outstanding player in Hamilton, period.
I'd love to see him honoured with a banner on the NW concourse along with Bernie Faloney and Angelo Mosca.  Synonymous with TiCat defence in the mid to late 60s and early 70s.  "Henley for Schenley"!

schmenger

Another great safety that played for the Cats, Paul Bennett. A guy that could de-cleat a player with his ferocious hits similar to Rob Hitchcock.  

stevehvh

Awesome pic, bobo! You're a super researcher!

And there's number 25 receiving the "Brenner pass" as they called it... 15 INTs in a 14 game season! 45 years later and the record still stands, even though they play 18 games now!
Thanks Steve , much appreciated . Here is another old pic I found of your boy Lewis Porter .


Awesome vertical shown by #24 batting down a pass against Ottawa from once again the 72 season .

The reason I say it's 72 is that the other player shown #33 is fellow DB Gerry Sternberg who only played 2 seasons with the team (71,72) . Here's a fun little known trivia fact for you about why it has to be from the 72 season.......In Porter's rookie season in 71 with the Cats he was used mainly on offence as a WR where he had 23 catches for 347 yds and 3 tds . The Cats converted him over to a full time DB the following season in 72 .  
That's right, bobo. When Porter arrived in 71 he was a receiver. Al Dorow was the coach. Jerry Williams replaced him in 72. He was the one who moved Garney Henley to offence, and basically Porter switched places with him, moving to DB. Though in that other picture you show from 1972, #24, 25 and 26 were all there on defence together. So Garney went from full time DB with spot duty on offence for most of his career to the other way around starting in 72.

Some great players on those teams for sure.

There was a good discussion recently about our best ever group of receivers. I wonder which would be our best group of DBs. 

I'd probably go with 1967... Henley, Ted Page, Bobby Richardson, Barrie Hansen, plus Bill Redell. The record that team made overall on defence was amazing. The Brenner-Porter group from 72 was great too. As was the group from the mid 80s.

stevehvh

Another great safety that played for the Cats, Paul Bennett. A guy that could de-cleat a player with his ferocious hits similar to Rob Hitchcock.  
Totally! Another tough hitting DB was Ted Page in the 60s. A real fire plug.

stevehvh

If we're talking about all time great Ticat DBs, to me number one without doubt is Garney Henley. More games and seasons played as a Ticat, more interceptions, more Grey Cups played and won, more all-star selections than anyone else. I'd rank him as the most outstanding player in Hamilton, period.
I'd love to see him honoured with a banner on the NW concourse along with Bernie Faloney and Angelo Mosca.  Synonymous with TiCat defence in the mid to late 60s and early 70s.  "Henley for Schenley"!
Absolutely! I agree 100 percent.

ExPat


There was a good discussion recently about our best ever group of receivers. I wonder which would be our best group of DBs.

I'd probably go with 1967... Henley, Ted Page, Bobby Richardson, Barrie Hansen, plus Bill Redell. The record that team made overall on defence was amazing. The Brenner-Porter group from 72 was great too. As was the group from the mid 80s.
The late-90s group was pretty good.  In 1998 three of our five DBs were CFL all-stars: Steinauer, Gerald Vaughn, Eric Carter.  We also had Hitchcock back there.  Carter was gone by 1999 when we won the Cup.  People remember the star QB, slotback and defensive end from that team, but it goes to show that you need to be strong all over to win it all.




stevehvh

You're right on all counts, Pat. Yes, that was another good group, and yes it takes a whole team to win the Cup.
 


Users Online

96 Guests, 1 User (13 Spiders)

Users active in past 15 minutes:
Grover, Google (13)

Most Online Today: 113. Most Online Ever: 489 (Nov 26 2017, 08:38 PM)