Onemoredork

There is no way Manziel is going the traditional route to becoming a starter, that is, waiting indefinitely for someone to maybe get hurt or show well in ex games or garbage time.

Its going to be sooner not later and Masoli defenders will cry unfair but thats the reality.

Espo

There is no way Manziel is going the traditional route to becoming a starter, that is, waiting indefinitely for someone to maybe get hurt or show well in ex games or garbage time.

Its going to be sooner not later and Masoli defenders will cry unfair but thats the reality.
I fully expect there to be a multitude of out clauses on both sides.  I also expect a signed Manziel to get a couple of shots to start this year "because uhhh  jeremiah is a bit banged up this week...."  

But I'd also fully expect those to be later in the season against weaker Eastern opponents.  

But I wouldn't expect an actual challenge to be starter until training camp 2019.  (that's also assuming we dont get off to an ofer start like we did last year)  
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Grover

There is no way Manziel is going the traditional route to becoming a starter, that is, waiting indefinitely for someone to maybe get hurt or show well in ex games or garbage time.

Its going to be sooner not later and Masoli defenders will cry unfair but thats the reality.
I fully expect there to be a multitude of out clauses on both sides.  I also expect a signed Manziel to get a couple of shots to start this year "because uhhh  jeremiah is a bit banged up this week...."  

But I'd also fully expect those to be later in the season against weaker Eastern opponents.  

But I wouldn't expect an actual challenge to be starter until training camp 2019.  (that's also assuming we dont get off to an ofer start like we did last year)  
I am not sure the League would allow "out clauses" in the contract
A first CFL contract is a 1yr + a 1yr club option, I doubt the League will give special treatment.
The TiCats would have to outright release him from his contract.
Lets hope we build up some big leads and Johnny can come in for mop up duty early in the 4th qtrs!

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bobo82

There is no way Manziel is going the traditional route to becoming a starter, that is, waiting indefinitely for someone to maybe get hurt or show well in ex games or garbage time.

Its going to be sooner not later and Masoli defenders will cry unfair but thats the reality.
If the inevitable actually happens(and right now the odds seem to point to it) and we sign this loser I guess I'll have no choice BUT to accept it . I'll be happy as long as Johnny is a good boy and keeps his ball cap on his oversized head and his hands busy with his clipboard or tablet if you like and goes and stands in the corner and doesn't bother any of the actual real football players that actually want to be on this team . The only way that I want to see little Johnny Stupid on the field is if Masoli is taken off on a stretcher or in mop up or garbage time .  Hopefully saner heads will prevail though and we trade the arsehole to that black hole better known as Montreal and then I won't have to worry about seeing this clown on our sidelines this season.
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ottawacat

Of course I could be wrong (again!), and likely all, or almost all here, would bet I am, but my gut feeling is that Manziel will not play for the Tiger-Cats. 

Grover

There is no way Manziel is going the traditional route to becoming a starter, that is, waiting indefinitely for someone to maybe get hurt or show well in ex games or garbage time.

Its going to be sooner not later and Masoli defenders will cry unfair but thats the reality.
If the inevitable actually happens(and right now the odds seem to point to it) and we sign this loser I guess I'll have no choice BUT to accept it . I'll be happy as long as Johnny is a good boy and keeps his ball cap on his oversized head and his hands busy with his clipboard or tablet if you like and goes and stands in the corner and doesn't bother any of the actual real football players that actually want to be on this team . The only way that I want to see little Johnny Stupid on the field is if Masoli is taken off on a stretcher or in mop up or garbage time .  Hopefully saner heads will prevail though and we trade the arsehole to that black hole better known as Montreal and then I won't have to worry about seeing this clown on our sidelines this season.
Thats it bobo, baby steps to acceptance!  ;)

Onemoredork

There is no way Manziel is going the traditional route to becoming a starter, that is, waiting indefinitely for someone to maybe get hurt or show well in ex games or garbage time.

Its going to be sooner not later and Masoli defenders will cry unfair but thats the reality.
If the inevitable actually happens(and right now the odds seem to point to it) and we sign this loser I guess I'll have no choice BUT to accept it . I'll be happy as long as Johnny is a good boy and keeps his ball cap on his oversized head and his hands busy with his clipboard or tablet if you like and goes and stands in the corner and doesn't bother any of the actual real football players that actually want to be on this team . The only way that I want to see little Johnny Stupid on the field is if Masoli is taken off on a stretcher or in mop up or garbage time .  Hopefully saner heads will prevail though and we trade the arsehole to that black hole better known as Montreal and then I won't have to worry about seeing this clown on our sidelines this season.
Like many others I was uncomfortable with the idea of Arland Bruce being a Tiger Cat.
 But he made the team better and I let it go because thats what matters - a team should always be looking at ways to make itself better

Hammertown Proud

especially in a league where previous year's success means nothing.

it may be considered a 'fault' of the CFL, or part of why the CFL is considered bush league, but I like the fact a team can go from last place, laughing stock, to Grey Cup winner the next year.

that is the nature of the league.

you ALWAYS have to be looking to win the 'next year'. The CFL isn't a league for 'building' for the future. The future in the CFL is the next year - and the next year only.

GOTC1

We're not going to win a GC with Masoli alone,so I hope Manzeil can contribute
to this team.
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bobo82

There is no way Manziel is going the traditional route to becoming a starter, that is, waiting indefinitely for someone to maybe get hurt or show well in ex games or garbage time.

Its going to be sooner not later and Masoli defenders will cry unfair but thats the reality.
If the inevitable actually happens(and right now the odds seem to point to it) and we sign this loser I guess I'll have no choice BUT to accept it . I'll be happy as long as Johnny is a good boy and keeps his ball cap on his oversized head and his hands busy with his clipboard or tablet if you like and goes and stands in the corner and doesn't bother any of the actual real football players that actually want to be on this team . The only way that I want to see little Johnny Stupid on the field is if Masoli is taken off on a stretcher or in mop up or garbage time .  Hopefully saner heads will prevail though and we trade the arsehole to that black hole better known as Montreal and then I won't have to worry about seeing this clown on our sidelines this season.
Thats it bobo, baby steps to acceptance!  ;)


LOL !!! My therapist gave me this great book .Yup , baby steps just like in the movie "What about Bob -o ? "  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3JPa2mvSQ4

ottawacat

especially in a league where previous year's success means nothing.

it may be considered a 'fault' of the CFL, or part of why the CFL is considered bush league, but I like the fact a team can go from last place, laughing stock, to Grey Cup winner the next year.

that is the nature of the league.

you ALWAYS have to be looking to win the 'next year'. The CFL isn't a league for 'building' for the future. The future in the CFL is the next year - and the next year only.
Interesting and food for thought.

But then, I think of the Calgary Stampeders who, after 4 straight years ('01 - '04) at the bottom of the western standings, have since had only 1 losing season (7-10-1 / '07) in 13 years and none in the past 10. 

Today's Stamps are reminiscent of the early Tiger-Cats who had only 1 losing season in their first 18 years of existence.  A coincidence (?) -- I recall that one of the popular songs of the Cats' second ever losing season ('68) was "Those were the days, my friend.  We thought they'd never end."

Crash

There is no way Manziel is going the traditional route to becoming a starter, that is, waiting indefinitely for someone to maybe get hurt or show well in ex games or garbage time.

Its going to be sooner not later and Masoli defenders will cry unfair but thats the reality.
Nope. Masoli supporters won't be able to say a thing. They've already clung to the "Jones obviously knows who the better QB is" statement.

ExPat

There is no way Manziel is going the traditional route to becoming a starter, that is, waiting indefinitely for someone to maybe get hurt or show well in ex games or garbage time.

Its going to be sooner not later and Masoli defenders will cry unfair but thats the reality.
Nope. Masoli supporters won't be able to say a thing. They've already clung to the "Jones obviously knows who the better QB is" statement.
It will also be interesting to see if Jones' philosophy on QB switches stays consistent.  In 2017 it was very much "he hasn't done anything to justify a change", and also: he who starts, finishes, regardless of the score. 

Of course, in 2017 he did not have the CFL's best-ever player sitting on the bench, so that could change things.

2ez

There is no way Manziel is going the traditional route to becoming a starter, that is, waiting indefinitely for someone to maybe get hurt or show well in ex games or garbage time.

Its going to be sooner not later and Masoli defenders will cry unfair but thats the reality.
Nope. Masoli supporters won't be able to say a thing. They've already clung to the "Jones obviously knows who the better QB is" statement.
Oh is that right? Didn't realize you got to control what everybody said Crash lol I'm obviously a Masoli supporter ... but when did I ever say that Jones obviously knows who the better QB is? Please find the quote where anyone said that... I've said the whole time I think Collaros is a good qb, I think Masoli is a good qb, and I think Manziel has the potential to be a good qb in the CFL.

Obviously Manziel isn't coming here to ride the pine. Hes gunna want to compete and I wouldn't want it any other way ... but why create a controversy where one isn't needed.

Let's say Masoli gets off to a horrible start and we are like 1-5 or something...you don't think I'd be willing to give Manziel a go? Of course and most logical fans would feel the same. 

Manziel hasn't earned the right to come in here and spark a qb controversy right off the bat though...That was my main point.

I know you didn't direct your comment at me but you threw anybody who is supporting Masoli as the starter under the same blanket so figured I'd respond.

It was a cute attempt at acting like a tough guy but this is an internet forum, you won't stop anyone from saying anything my friend. 

Espo

It wasn't an attempt at being a "tough guy" 

It was a regurgitation of every Masoli super fan's response to "hey Zach would probably look pretty good in this system too...  should probably get a chance"  

 


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