Lucas Bellemare

In theory this format would be good and still should produce exciting games. However last two years have shown how the actual division playoff system is preferable. Altough eastern teams were weaker, and altough Calgary was a dominating machine, the Grey Cup is about only one game. And in both 2016 and 2017, Ottawa and Toronto were better than Calgary

PTBO Dave

In theory this format would be good and still should produce exciting games. However last two years have shown how the actual division playoff system is preferable. Altough eastern teams were weaker, and altough Calgary was a dominating machine, the Grey Cup is about only one game. And in both 2016 and 2017, Ottawa and Toronto were better than Calgary
The counter, of course, is that Ottawa and Toronto were given the easier path to the Cup. Regardless, we had a great, exciting game in 2017.

ArgoT

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It get's tiring when you play the same team 3-4 times per year and more.
I never can understand this when in baseball many fans enjoy a 4 game homestand agains't the same team.   One of the things I love about the fewer teams is that you do get to play more agains't the same team, I think it adds more to intrigue.    It's great to see how a team responds after winning/losing to a team and getting a few more chances to correct or what have you agains't the same team.
Aerial,

Do you always have to be so darn logical and practical all the time?! *lol*   I'm always looking for something to disagree with you about but each time I come up dry!  Man-oh-man.   Good post!


 Too much playing one team over and over again when it's a contact sport with small schedule like football it's like eating too many sweets it will rot your teeth out .

 The whole idea of 10 teams is to have a balanced schedule . In baseball like hockey with so many games to play 162 in Baseball you can need to have some rivalry with more interdivisional matchups . It heightens the schedule with familiarity of a rival yankees or tigers.

   With only a measly 10 teams and 9 home games you can't really do it without taking away the rivalry with a ho hum it's Hamilton again approach to game day .
 
 It's so much sweeter when it's once a year .
Absolutely it will be much sweeter for those classic games like Labour Day.
The fans will look forward to the one visit per year and frankly it will lead to a ticket demand situation.

Aerial

When I want sweets, and I do love sweets, I want more than one, that's for sure.  One just gets me started.  But no right or wrong of course, all just personal preferences.  Pros and cons.
"Canadian football does in fact have 4 downs, its just that as Canadians we are very polite and punt on the third down" -John Candy, SCTV

cflisthebest

When the 10th team comes in you have to have a balance schedule playing each team home and away.
It get's tiring when you play the same team 3-4 times per year and more.
We all remember when we had 8 teams, it was 5 times per year with some teams.
It was never 5.  The most was 4
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PTBO Dave


Absolutely it will be much sweeter for those classic games like Labour Day.
The fans will look forward to the one visit per year and frankly it will lead to a ticket demand situation.
I agree that if you reduce the number of games against your best-drawing rivals, then the remaining game against those best-drawing rivals should draw better.

However, I worry about increasing the number of games against teams that do not draw so well.

Would the overall attendance in Calgary, for example, be higher for 2 visits from Edmonton, or 1 visit from Edmonton + 1 visit from Montreal?

Hank01


Absolutely it will be much sweeter for those classic games like Labour Day.
The fans will look forward to the one visit per year and frankly it will lead to a ticket demand situation.
I agree that if you reduce the number of games against your best-drawing rivals, then the remaining game against those best-drawing rivals should draw better.

However, I worry about increasing the number of games against teams that do not draw so well.

Would the overall attendance in Calgary, for example, be higher for 2 visits from Edmonton, or 1 visit from Edmonton + 1 visit from Montreal?
  There is a dip in attendance for non divisional rivals that's a fact  but with 10 teams you only play each opponent once home and away so no extra games for any opponent east or west . It would be balanced perfectly so the idea of one division has grown in interest for that reason alone .

   Hopefully the East will be more competitive or else the disparity will be even more transparent in the standings with separate divisions .

 They will need to stack the expansion draft with Halifax so they are competitive game one much like the Redblacks were after season 1 or it will tilt the East further down in the scales .

pw13

When the 10th team comes in you have to have a balance schedule playing each team home and away.
It get's tiring when you play the same team 3-4 times per year and more.
We all remember when we had 8 teams, it was 5 times per year with some teams.
It was never 5.  The most was 4
Four is too many, in an 18-game schedule. And unless you cross divisions for preseason, it will be five for at least one team, including PS. Add playoffs and you could play nearly 30% of your schedule against one team, and 60% against two teams. Boring.

pw13

I absolutely love playing the same team a lot in the CFL.  If others don't get that, that's your problem.


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One of the strengths of every other league is a multiplicity of opponents. Raptors have 29 other teams to play, so fans don't get sick of them playing any one team. In the old days before fully-interlocking schedules, Argos could play Hamilton four times a season, plus preseason. Too many.
Too many?  Are you nuts or off your rocker pw?  Albeit I respect your twisted logic that makes sense to you and others in your camp, not me though.   ;) This IS the strength of the CFL and baseball fans get it and know it and that's why best 4 out 7 playoff series in sports that go the full length of 7 games have the most intrigue.   The CFL is like a league that is playoffs during the regular season.  How much better can it get for pete sakes?  Basic, very basic logic.

Multiplicity of opponents?  Well then the CFL isn't your league, go follow leagues that have 30 some odd teams, go for it then.  The pure strength of the CFL is playing opponents often.  Sort of like butter and toast for breakfast.  I do this everyday, eat toast everyday and cereal and eggs and never, ever get tired of it.  Must be the English in me as well that potatoes everyday with meat, simply perfect.  Or my Fathers side, pasta, could do this everyday as well and be totally in sync.  :-*

But I repeat, the CFL can only do so much for playing different opponents and have divisions with an 8-10 team league for those that see "problems" with playing a team "too often" with an 18 game schedule.  I'm not a math major but I do get this.  30 team leagues would probably fit your bill much better.
Woah, you might want to calm down, Earl. I don't need to be told that I should abandon CFL just because I don't agree with your preferred schedule.

I love the CFL, warts and all, and I don't see any harm in preferring to have lots of different opponents at my home games rather than same three or four most of the time. If there are nine potential opponents and nine home games, why limit me to six opponents? When Doug Flutie was the greatest player in this league, fans in every city wanted, and deserved, to see him in their ballpark each year.

Aerial

With divisions though, well....  guess how that works?  With your way, eliminate the divisions.  Right?  A totally balanced schedule with divisions is just plain stupid.  Right?

bowl450

as a season ticket holder I want to see every team in my stadium every year, this way I get to see all the teams and their star players on my teams home field.
I also like to reward successful teams with a berth in the post season, weather its with a single division or a two division league, with division winners having the first round by and the next 4 best teams seeded as previously stated is my preference.

sambo42

No. The East/West format is preferable. Once the East gets a 5th team then the crossover can be eliminated and we'll always have the traditional East/West Grey Cup.
Adding a 5th team to the East will hypothetically not be a cure all and magic elixir to fix and eliminate the crossover . As an example , what if the 3rd place team in the East ( or even the West for that matter) has a record that is below the 4th place finisher in the other division ? Let's take this year that just finished and add the imaginary alleged 5th team in the East and have them finish below the 3rd place Cats with a worse record . This scenario would have had the 6-12 Cats making the play-offs and the 4th place 10-8 Riders missing them if you eliminated the crossover and just went with the top 3 teams in each division . Basically even if the league eventually does get that coveted 10th franchise they would still have to use the crossover format in some years to ensure that the top 6 teams record wise are in the play-offs .
If you really want to eliminate the crossover, just have 4 teams from each division into the playoffs. More often than not, the last place team in each division won't have a better record than the 4th place finishers.

Aerial

as a season ticket holder I want to see every team in my stadium every year, this way I get to see all the teams and their star players on my teams home field.
I also like to reward successful teams with a berth in the post season, weather its with a single division or a two division league, with division winners having the first round by and the next 4 best teams seeded as previously stated is my preference.
Translation equals eliminate divisions.  I agree with what your saying but only in a one division league.  With divisions you MUST play teams in your division more creating an unequal unbalanced schedule and playoffs as a result that may mean less qualified teams from one division may earn a playoff berth compared with teams in the other division, that's what divisions mean.  Unless I'm missing something.  Not rocket science.

pw13

With divisions though, well....  guess how that works?  With your way, eliminate the divisions.  Right?  A totally balanced schedule with divisions is just plain stupid.  Right?
CFL has been playing a fully interlocking schedule since 1981. That's 36 years. I don't see why it's suddenly a problem that has to be solved. (And yet I'm the one being encouraged to stop following it and instead follow better leagues.) Hell, East teams already play 10 of their 18 games against the West, so I guess they should change their Division name to West Division.

prairiewolf77

With 10 teams we can eliminate the cross over.
Hopefully stay at 6 teams that make playoffs.

balanced schedule seems the easiest but with that you may lean towards just one division.
Playoff: With Divisions Teams 1-3
            One division Teams 1-6

Unbalanced:
Play each team in division 3x: 12 games
Play each team in other division 1x: 5 games
1 game left: I would suggest instead of 4 games within division, play 1vs1, 2v2 etc from standings of previous year.
So:
3 games against each division team
1 game against each team from other division
1 weighted game based on previous year standings.

Playoffs 1-3 each division.

We already have teams playing each other 3x now and we already have teams playing each other 4 times due to pre-season. 
 


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