Iconic SR

Looking ahead to 2018 and beyond, does the league see any new stadium development or major renovations? Who (if any) is talking about it besides Calgary right now?

It seems Stamps/Flames ownership group and the city are at odds over any new facilities these days, so not sure if their Plan A (new) is going to go anywhere. I'm thinking renovating McMahon might be more realistic and affordable by all the stakeholders (the university, city, Stamps). Some federal dollars are likely to go that way via the college too. Everyone commits to $15 to $20 million and they can turn McMahon into a great park and recoup some $ via a ticket surcharge.

Everyone in the east looks like they have what they need and with the recent announcement of a new roof planned at the Big Owe, it looks like Montreal can one day host the big games again. 

Halifax. Any news there?

RedandWhite

...meanwhile, back at McMahon, the lone groundskeeper begins to prepare...

There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact it's all dark.

Aerial

Looking ahead to 2018 and beyond, does the league see any new stadium development or major renovations? Who (if any) is talking about it besides Calgary right now?

It seems Stamps/Flames ownership group and the city are at odds over any new facilities these days, so not sure if their Plan A (new) is going to go anywhere. I'm thinking renovating McMahon might be more realistic and affordable by all the stakeholders (the university, city, Stamps). Some federal dollars are likely to go that way via the college too. Everyone commits to $15 to $20 million and they can turn McMahon into a great park and recoup some $ via a ticket surcharge.

Everyone in the east looks like they have what they need and with the recent announcement of a new roof planned at the Big Owe, it looks like Montreal can one day host the big games again.

Halifax. Any news there?
Montreal needs more classy true seat seating like Tim Horton's Field for example, a similar sized stadium.  I think the Als are in need of a 5-10 year plan on PMS to see it turn into a Tim Horton's Field or TD Place Stadium in Ottawa.  PMS looks tired.  
"Canadian football does in fact have 4 downs, its just that as Canadians we are very polite and punt on the third down" -John Candy, SCTV

EastVanMark

CFL commish 'very worried' about Calgary stadium situation

There are no good reasons left to keep the 57-year-old stadium other than the fact there’s little hope whatsoever a new home for the city’s CFL club will be built anytime soon.

“I’m very worried,” Ambrosie said when asked how concerned he was with the situation.
“Perhaps the most successful team in the last 20 years in the CFL has one of the poorest stadiums in the CFL. I think that’s a tragedy.


http://calgarysun.com/sports/football/cfl/calgary-stampeders/francis-ambrosie-very-worried-about-calgary-stadium-situation

Aerial

Sounds like the San Francisco 49ers situation for many years.  Eventually that did get worked out and this one will too I'm sure.  I think Calgary is looking at hosting another Olympics, 2026 and McMahon would look very tired in that day and age of opening and closing ceremonies.  Basically it would look like an embarrassement to tell you the truth.

Although the word 'tragedy' may be a tad over the top I'd say.

Iconic SR

Within the context of pro football, a city of 1 million pop., consistency in being a very strong club, and a fairly loyal fan base - it is kinda tragic.

Interesting situation in Calgary. McMahon is owned by the university, run by some McMahon mgmt group. Calgary owns none of it. So if Calgary is expected to share the cost of a new one, it is a brand new financial hit to the taxpayer for something they've never owned or invested in before. They don't own the old one like say Regina or Edmonton does, nor does it have provincial ownership money in it like BC Place. That's a hard sell to taxpayers when there is no old one to sell or redevelop the land and recoup the capital investment. And the team in the place is privately owned. And we all know not many Calgary taxpayers are filling the old one, so even a solid group of season ticket holders can't shoulder the load. 

No wonder this thing looks like a dead horse.

brianjoxx

Montreal at top of list.

brianjoxx

CFL commish 'very worried' about Calgary stadium situation

There are no good reasons left to keep the 57-year-old stadium other than the fact there’s little hope whatsoever a new home for the city’s CFL club will be built anytime soon.

“I’m very worried,” Ambrosie said when asked how concerned he was with the situation.
“Perhaps the most successful team in the last 20 years in the CFL has one of the poorest stadiums in the CFL. I think that’s a tragedy.


http://calgarysun.com/sports/football/cfl/calgary-stampeders/francis-ambrosie-very-worried-about-calgary-stadium-situation
Calling BS on that one. You must have been talking to Burkie. Of coarse they want 2 new facilities at tax payers expense. More MONEY for them!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why NOT
I went to only 2 games in Calgary this YEAR. Very pleasant game seats,surroundings and entertainment.
Love the tail gate parties.Better then 2 or 3 other stadiums in league.
Sure eventually stadium should be replaced but not bad. Look at Montreal! Ouch!

Iconic SR

Montreal at top of list.
With the next round of new roof million$ now allocated to the Big Owe, Montreal won't be getting a new stadium in a long, long time.

Why can't these huge Canadian cities support their teams and make this stuff a no brainer?
Despite being a huge CFL fan - If I was a Calgary resident I would be saying to my councillor: "Why should we contribute anything to a new stadium when the major tenant Stampeders can't even fill their existing one?"

That's the Calgary problem. The Stamps ownership group thinks they can play hardball, but they don't have a compelling case to woo the city with. It would be different if Stamps fans were flocking to support their league leading club. But they aren't. Sad actually. Very sad.

Nenshi got elected by millenials and the mid centre left. They don't flock to games either, except soccer. I think the Stamps need to desperately woo the soccer community and cost share a new place. 

brianjoxx

Montreal at top of list.
With the next round of new roof million$ now allocated to the Big Owe, Montreal won't be getting a new stadium in a long, long time.

Why can't these huge Canadian cities support their teams and make this stuff a no brainer?
Despite being a huge CFL fan - If I was a Calgary resident I would be saying to my councillor: "Why should we contribute anything to a new stadium when the major tenant Stampeders can't even fill their existing one?"

That's the Calgary problem. The Stamps ownership group thinks they can play hardball, but they don't have a compelling case to woo the city with. It would be different if Stamps fans were flocking to support their league leading club. But they aren't. Sad actually. Very sad.

Nenshi got elected by millenials and the mid centre left. They don't flock to games either, except soccer. I think the Stamps need to desperately woo the soccer community and cost share a new place.
well said thanks

KevinRiley2

Montreal at top of list.
With the next round of new roof million$ now allocated to the Big Owe, Montreal won't be getting a new stadium in a long, long time.

Why can't these huge Canadian cities support their teams and make this stuff a no brainer?
Despite being a huge CFL fan - If I was a Calgary resident I would be saying to my councillor: "Why should we contribute anything to a new stadium when the major tenant Stampeders can't even fill their existing one?"

That's the Calgary problem. The Stamps ownership group thinks they can play hardball, but they don't have a compelling case to woo the city with. It would be different if Stamps fans were flocking to support their league leading club. But they aren't. Sad actually. Very sad.

Nenshi got elected by millenials and the mid centre left. They don't flock to games either, except soccer. I think the Stamps need to desperately woo the soccer community and cost share a new place.
well said thanks
If the stadium is workable/safe, the Stamps will have to live with it.  They should have build a new stadium when Alberta was booming.  

If the Feds want to kick in money for a new stadium, I'm okay with it.  ;)
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Iconic SR

Montreal at top of list.
With the next round of new roof million$ now allocated to the Big Owe, Montreal won't be getting a new stadium in a long, long time.

Why can't these huge Canadian cities support their teams and make this stuff a no brainer?
Despite being a huge CFL fan - If I was a Calgary resident I would be saying to my councillor: "Why should we contribute anything to a new stadium when the major tenant Stampeders can't even fill their existing one?"

That's the Calgary problem. The Stamps ownership group thinks they can play hardball, but they don't have a compelling case to woo the city with. It would be different if Stamps fans were flocking to support their league leading club. But they aren't. Sad actually. Very sad.

Nenshi got elected by millenials and the mid centre left. They don't flock to games either, except soccer. I think the Stamps need to desperately woo the soccer community and cost share a new place.
well said thanks
If the stadium is workable/safe, the Stamps will have to live with it.  They should have build a new stadium when Alberta was booming.  

If the Feds want to kick in money for a new stadium, I'm okay with it.  ;)
Yeah I don't have a problem with feds using infrastructure $ for stadiums and arenas either. Within reason tho. The P3 structure can work so well when there are a defined group of stakeholders, but the absence of any Calgary city equity to date makes it very difficult to sell any new stadium to the civic taxpayer. And I can't see the feds throwing $ at it unless the city and province does. And Rachel Notley's socialist agenda conflicts with Stamps private ownership interests. If it was a community owned club I think a stadium would have already been announced.  

FootbalYouBet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Toronto_Area_Cricket_Stadium

will we see the introduction of a greater Toronto aussie rules football league?

Bet Toronto would support that better than they do the Argos
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EastVanMark

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Toronto_Area_Cricket_Stadium

will we see the introduction of a greater Toronto aussie rules football league?

Bet Toronto would support that better than they do the Argos
I dunno, its not American. If it was, no question it would do gangbusters

FootbalYouBet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Toronto_Area_Cricket_Stadium

will we see the introduction of a greater Toronto aussie rules football league?

Bet Toronto would support that better than they do the Argos
I dunno, its not American. If it was, no question it would do gangbusters
yeah, but then again, cricket isn't American either.
 


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