brianjoxx

Well they tried in in Halifax which was a big failure again.
Why not USA. CFL gaining support and following.
However other Canadian cities would work as they have never been given a chance to view.
That works!!
I apologize in advance for my ignorance, but why were the games in Halifax a failure?  It seems that that Halifax is but a stadium away from getting an expansion team.  I think that by selling out virtually every game, the NFL has demonstrated that there is interest for their game in England and possibly laying the framework for a team there. I think the payback could come later.  It seems like a great way of "testing the waters" before actually committing a team there.

I do agree with your "Why not USA" comment.  There is already a lot of interest in football there and many under-served markets.

Also.  In the case of these neutral site games, there is no "home" team, so the hosting city and tv audience may not be as "vested" in the game, as might occur if the hosting city actually had a team, IMO.
Just a note!! Halifax had very small crowds in a small and tiny stadium. Cfl has basically offered them a franchises 10 12 years ago. Nothing has happen. Not a big populated area that struggles economically. Cities and province said no to funds. No real big team investor has come forward.
Expansion SHOULD BE OPEN TO ALL. Other Cities are on a boom with major Dollars in there pockets with great commercial opportunities. Why not go there!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To my recollection the games down East were in Moncton, called Touchdown Atlantic. 10,000 seat stadium enlarged to about 16,000 and sold out the first year. Smaller crowd the second year but still had a lot of interest.
Just using the name Halifax/Moncton area as from news reports that MAYBE be a considered location.
A lot of interest would be 25,000 plus to show support and commitment of a few stadium
for any location. Owners and investors lining up. For one or two games many cities/areas
would draw 20,000. LONG term is a little different. Requires big bucks
Cheers good thought.
Toronto averaged 13,000 last year and have never broken 25,000 in two years not even for the east final . BC averaged 19,000 and Montreal is no different . So the three biggest cities don't qualify long term . Halifax doesn't have to do much to match the low standards set by the big brother CFL cities . This is a 24,000 and up
league in terms of stadium size . Montreal right now seats less than 24,000 .

  The only international game should be one sponsored by the one's needing one like an ESPN and it needs to be in a market interested that holds sway like New York .
That would be the only reason to put a game on ; other than Canada . You expose the game to people who can actually buy the product . The NFL goes to Britain because of TV deals with good ratings not just for future expansion . So if the CFL plays a game in the states it's to expose the product to it's viewers . Right now ESPN does not expose or promote the product like they did in the 80s to get viewers .
 The point. The teams that averaged under 20,000 per game LOST MONEY.
The west has the better teams during season play?? WHY They average 5,000 more fans per game.
 9 home games means better system. BC has struggle so as Toronto and Montreal. Lets fix those first
before we do expansion but give any city an opportunity to apply. Maybe there is none!
Lets not have a new anchor to pull. Want a franchise show the money.

CFL2USA

Well they tried in in Halifax which was a big failure again.
Why not USA. CFL gaining support and following.
However other Canadian cities would work as they have never been given a chance to view.
That works!!
I apologize in advance for my ignorance, but why were the games in Halifax a failure?  It seems that that Halifax is but a stadium away from getting an expansion team.  I think that by selling out virtually every game, the NFL has demonstrated that there is interest for their game in England and possibly laying the framework for a team there. I think the payback could come later.  It seems like a great way of "testing the waters" before actually committing a team there.

I do agree with your "Why not USA" comment.  There is already a lot of interest in football there and many under-served markets.

Also.  In the case of these neutral site games, there is no "home" team, so the hosting city and tv audience may not be as "vested" in the game, as might occur if the hosting city actually had a team, IMO.
Just a note!! Halifax had very small crowds in a small and tiny stadium. Cfl has basically offered them a franchises 10 12 years ago. Nothing has happen. Not a big populated area that struggles economically. Cities and province said no to funds. No real big team investor has come forward.
Expansion SHOULD BE OPEN TO ALL. Other Cities are on a boom with major Dollars in there pockets with great commercial opportunities. Why not go there!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To my recollection the games down East were in Moncton, called Touchdown Atlantic. 10,000 seat stadium enlarged to about 16,000 and sold out the first year. Smaller crowd the second year but still had a lot of interest.
Just using the name Halifax/Moncton area as from news reports that MAYBE be a considered location.
A lot of interest would be 25,000 plus to show support and commitment of a few stadium
for any location. Owners and investors lining up. For one or two games many cities/areas
would draw 20,000. LONG term is a little different. Requires big bucks
Cheers good thought.
Toronto averaged 13,000 last year and have never broken 25,000 in two years not even for the east final . BC averaged 19,000 and Montreal is no different . So the three biggest cities don't qualify long term . Halifax doesn't have to do much to match the low standards set by the big brother CFL cities . This is a 24,000 and up
league in terms of stadium size . Montreal right now seats less than 24,000 .

  The only international game should be one sponsored by the one's needing one like an ESPN and it needs to be in a market interested that holds sway like New York .
That would be the only reason to put a game on ; other than Canada . You expose the game to people who can actually buy the product . The NFL goes to Britain because of TV deals with good ratings not just for future expansion . So if the CFL plays a game in the states it's to expose the product to it's viewers . Right now ESPN does not expose or promote the product like they did in the 80s to get viewers .
The point. The teams that averaged under 20,000 per game LOST MONEY.
The west has the better teams during season play?? WHY They average 5,000 more fans per game.
 9 home games means better system. BC has struggle so as Toronto and Montreal. Lets fix those first
before we do expansion but give any city an opportunity to apply. Maybe there is none!
Lets not have a new anchor to pull. Want a franchise show the money.
Why do you think that Canada's three largest metros have the lowest average attendance?  9 home games means better system?  I don't follow.

FootbalYouBet



Why do you think that Canada's three largest metros have the lowest average attendance?  9 home games means better system?  I don't follow.
because there is so much more to do and there is more American influence.  A very large percentage of new immigrants end up in our 3 largest metros.

p.s.  seems to me that there should be some limit to number of imbedded quotes.
Crush cream soda is oh so good.  I think I'll have another

There are people out there who just will not be happy until they have created sentient AI.

brihind88

Other than cost, there is just no interest in the CFL outside Canada.

In fact , I doubt England and Mexico even know's Canada has a league.

brianjoxx



Why do you think that Canada's three largest metros have the lowest average attendance?  9 home games means better system?  I don't follow.
because there is so much more to do and there is more American influence.  A very large percentage of new immigrants end up in our 3 largest metros.

p.s.  seems to me that there should be some limit to number of imbedded quotes.
That is right on. Larger centers have so much more to do. In Vancouver/Kelowna NFL rules at pubs.
No CFL games on Sunday which is why there is none. Beer specials which are American owned.
Cheep food no need to go to NFL games which most will not attend anyway .Killing CFL game attendance in larger centers.

brihind88

Las Vegas would be about the best international site, drawing some of the thousands of Canadians in the city at any one time to the game, along with thousands of U.S. CFL fans who are scattered across America, but who follow the CFL on ESPN (it's not uncommon for a quarter million U.S. viewers to watch the entire 3-hour gamecast, which suggests the total number of unique viewers could reach 1 million or more per game.)

Some of these passionate American fans might make a CFL weekend sojourn to LV just like some Canadian fans of the teams playing (an example might be the Riders fans who congregate in Phoenix to watch a NHL game each year featuring some Sask. players). It might not be far-fetched to draw 15,000-20,000 for an exhibition game in LV, like the league did with it's game in Portland in '93.

The CFL also played a game in NYC and other U.S. cities. Other locations might include Boise, Grand Rapids, Rochester and Portland.

It's kind of ridiculous to contemplate playing CFL games across the pond, unless it was against a NFL team (flag football?) for charity, concussion research, etc.
I was at the CFL game between the Riders/Posse back in ‘94. The temperature at field level was 113F, and there were about 11,000 people there. Never again.

Oh, and of course it’s soon to have the NFL
Fans in Vegas would not even show up for the exciting UFL Locomotives games.

No way would they show up for a CFL game.

" Never again" by BCRF are the best words to sum this whole thing up. 

ArgoT

I have always said they should play a game in Hawaii.
The problem is Honolulu, where I believe the U of H stadium that was always used for the Pro Bowl is way too small and cannot be increased to our dimensions.

prairiewolf77

The CFL and AFL (Australian Rules Football) should host an exchange.
They host a CFL game in Australia and a CFL team hosts a AFL game here.
I would love to see an AFL game. It looks like a crazy and fun game.

TSN has already broadcasted taped delay games during the season Saturday Nights.

letsgoticats

I have always said they should play a game in Hawaii.
The problem is Honolulu, where I believe the U of H stadium that was always used for the Pro Bowl is way too small and cannot be increased to our dimensions.
Any game in the US would be stupid, but why would you choose the most isolated market?  What sense does that make?

rcon

The CFL and AFL (Australian Rules Football) should host an exchange.
They host a CFL game in Australia and a CFL team hosts a AFL game here.
I would love to see an AFL game. It looks like a crazy and fun game.

TSN has already broadcasted taped delay games during the season Saturday Nights.
I thought of the same thing.

rpaege

I know I would definitely show up to a CFL game in the states if it was relatively close. Oakland comes to mind. There are MANY Canadians in the Bay Area (~350,000). If it was promoted properly, ex-players from the area who played in the CFL (Biletnikoff, Kapp, Garcia) could be recruited to help promote it. There are also lots of lesser known players who originated from around here. It could even be held as a Canada Day event since those are somewhat popular.

Hank01

 

  The only place that could do it is Yankee stadium as they already host MLS games .

 But only if the game is sponsored by some big cheese . Let ESPN be the leader and orchestrate it . If they can get sponsors like Hyundai , Nissan , Coke or whatever they could pull it off and hopefully get a respectful number to attend the televised game on their main ESPN channel none of this ESPN2 or 3 rink a dink .

 If they won't put up some effort then forget it . You need a valid partnership in the states to pull this off properly and even then it's shaky .

StampsRock!

Actually, the only football stadium in the US that can accommodate a CFL field is the Alamo Dome in San Antonio, the former home of the defunct SA Texans. 
Biggest Stamps fan in Red Deer!

brihind88

The CFL and AFL (Australian Rules Football) should host an exchange.
They host a CFL game in Australia and a CFL team hosts a AFL game here.
I would love to see an AFL game. It looks like a crazy and fun game.

TSN has already broadcasted taped delay games during the season Saturday Nights.
I thought of the same thing.
I love AFL.

Now, I think they had an AFL exhibition game at BC Place back in the 80's.

However, that is the only stadium that could hold an AFL game.

With the huge AFL size field, the stadium has to be configured.

TravelPat1

The CFL and AFL (Australian Rules Football) should host an exchange.
They host a CFL game in Australia and a CFL team hosts a AFL game here.
I would love to see an AFL game. It looks like a crazy and fun game.

TSN has already broadcasted taped delay games during the season Saturday Nights.
The field at the Melbourne Cricket Grounds - where I saw an AFL game once - is HUGE.

It is 171 meters (187 yards) long and 146 meters (160 yards) wide.  More than double the width of a CFL field. 
 


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