nopa

The Calgary Mayor vote is done and incumbent Mayor Neshi is back for 4 more years.
Flames/Stamps not happy. :'(

Flames communications director tweeted this after the results



And Flames VP tweeted this before the election


Whats that I hear from Seattle


You know what? The Flames organizations are the arrogant and entitled ones in this. And completely greedy on the backs of the taxpayers. And not above messing with politics to get their way. Screw them, I hope the Flames leave. That Sean Kelso looks to be a complete douchebag.
Houston Flames?

Mightygoose

Really depends in CSE want to sell. They won't be in better place being tenants in Houston, Seattle or Quebec City.

Aside from that tweet that was taken down fast - the Flames and the league have been quiet. Maybe it's because they can't influence the election anymore!'

They're crying poor stance is mentioning how they're not in the top 10 revenues anymore. Nothing about losing money which is common in these stand-offs. With revenue sharing they now receive as opposed to paying out which could mean they're actually more profitable now. If they can't afford the city's deal (not saying the city can't improve the offer either), why not open the books?

Iconic SR

Aging McMahon Stadium lost in the arena debate

Below is an excerpt from an article originally from CBC Sports:

The great arena debate of 2017 is in full swing, just in time for the municipal election. But lost in the war of words, according to some fans, is that other building which plays home to another Calgary Sports and Entertainment Corporation team: McMahon Stadium.

CSEC president and CEO Ken King made it clear earlier this week that the organization doesn't intend to spend any money to fix up McMahon, which was last renovated in 2014.

CSEC originally floated the idea of a combined stadium and arena complex it dubbed CalgaryNext for the west end of downtown, but that megaproject was roundly rejected by city council.

Since then, the city has been pursuing its Plan B project for a new arena in Victoria Park near the aging Saddledome. That project, does not include a new stadium.


https://ca.news.yahoo.com/aging-mcmahon-stadium-lost-arena-151447212.html
'Nobody wants to put money into it'. Enough said.

Can't rely on the fans - they can't fill that park regardless of Stamps record. Get used to McMahon. Not a bad park, but does need some work.

Grover

Taylor Field in SSK gets blown up today


Thanks to @Doc_Dave for sig

Migs

Too bad they couldn't pick it up & move it to Halifax. 

Kinda sad to see it go, decades of memories in there. :(

https://twitter.com/globalregina/status/924008634136215552

PTBO Dave

Taylor Field in SSK gets blown up today


What's the story behind having SHARE in the endzones? Anyone know?

Grover


OSEG shows loss for Landsdowne, but is confident project headed in right direction
The revamped Lansdowne is not yet turning a profit for the Ottawa Sports and Entertainment Group, with the city’s partners in the redevelopment seeing a $14.4 million loss last year.

That loss comes despite an increase in revenue to $50 million. Based on the original estimates when the city agreed to partner with OSEG, the company was to be doing better financially by now.

OSEG reported to councillors at the city’s finance and economic development committee Tuesday that retail vacancies were down and they're booking more events at the facility, and Roger Greenberg, chair of the group, said they remain optimistic.
“Over the next 30 years we see new opportunities for business. We see new events going forward,” he said.
MORE HERE
http://www.metronews.ca/news/ottawa/2017/07/04/oseg-shows-loss-for-landsdowne-but-project-headed-right.html

The Last Word


OSEG shows loss for Landsdowne, but is confident project headed in right direction
The revamped Lansdowne is not yet turning a profit for the Ottawa Sports and Entertainment Group, with the city’s partners in the redevelopment seeing a $14.4 million loss last year.

That loss comes despite an increase in revenue to $50 million. Based on the original estimates when the city agreed to partner with OSEG, the company was to be doing better financially by now.

OSEG reported to councillors at the city’s finance and economic development committee Tuesday that retail vacancies were down and they're booking more events at the facility, and Roger Greenberg, chair of the group, said they remain optimistic.
“Over the next 30 years we see new opportunities for business. We see new events going forward,” he said.
MORE HERE
http://www.metronews.ca/news/ottawa/2017/07/04/oseg-shows-loss-for-landsdowne-but-project-headed-right.html
This could very well be a warning to the group out of Halifax trying to secure a team that not all real estate plays involving Pro sports teams turn out to be financially prudent decisions.  OSEG has suffered losses year after year.  There is little reason for optimism until they actually show an operating profit.

c-way-dude

Too bad they couldn't pick it up & move it to Halifax.

Kinda sad to see it go, decades of memories in there. :(

https://twitter.com/globalregina/status/924008634136215552
I thought that way about the old stadium in Winnipeg as well.  Money had been spent renovating the old stadium for the '99 Pan Am Games (IIRC).  Even forgetting the end zone seats, there was still a pretty decent stadium seating around 26k.

Cool

Calgary could play at Commonwealth for two seasons, while the new stadium is being built 
Pull Together everyone
1873

RM14

In the initial Olympic bid study, the committee proposes to remove 2000 prime seats around 30 rows up, on both sides of McMahon. This is a terrible idea.

Building North end-zone seats is a good idea though.

http://www.calgary.ca/_layouts/cocis/DirectDownload.aspx?target=http%3a%2f%2fwww.calgary.ca%2fCSPS%2fRecreation%2fDocuments%2f2026%2520Olympic%2520Bid%2fappendices%2fappendix-4J-detailed-venue-analysis-mcmahon.pdf&noredirect=1&sf=1

GO STAMPS GO

Hank01



  Lots to consider . 4 options with 2 having no legacy planning . 

   The two with a legacy component is a must for McMahon .The new berm for 700 and the new standing areas would be an asset as well as the open concourse . 

   Not sure why they would stop with only half the stadium getting new 20 or 21 inch seats . Why not just have all the seats brand new and uniform looking ? Kind of odd thinking when the look of the stadium would be greatly enhanced with modern seating and colour coordination . 

  Reduced capacity might actually help a bit as the new count would definitely be at the sell out range .

BCRiderFan



  Lots to consider . 4 options with 2 having no legacy planning .

   The two with a legacy component is a must for McMahon .The new berm for 700 and the new standing areas would be an asset as well as the open concourse .

   Not sure why they would stop with only half the stadium getting new 20 or 21 inch seats . Why not just have all the seats brand new and uniform looking ? Kind of odd thinking when the look of the stadium would be greatly enhanced with modern seating and colour coordination .

  Reduced capacity might actually help a bit as the new count would definitely be at the sell out range .
Only 28,000 seats in a city the size of Calgary is too small. They should have at least the same as Regina and Winnipeg at 35,000 ish. These plans look terribe IMO

The second revised version of the Calgary Next project sure looked interesting. They should keep working on that project, but not try to screw the taxpayers this time.
Grey Cup wins last decade, okay 11 years

Sask - 2
BC - 2
Cal - 2
Mtl - 2
Tor - 1
Edm -1
Ott - 1
Ham - 0
Wpg - 0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_G ... _champions

GernB

In the initial Olympic bid study, the committee proposes to remove 2000 prime seats around 30 rows up, on both sides of McMahon. This is a terrible idea.

Building North end-zone seats is a good idea though.

http://www.calgary.ca/_layouts/cocis/DirectDownload.aspx?target=http%3a%2f%2fwww.calgary.ca%2fCSPS%2fRecreation%2fDocuments%2f2026%2520Olympic%2520Bid%2fappendices%2fappendix-4J-detailed-venue-analysis-mcmahon.pdf&noredirect=1&sf=1


They should take a page out of the 1988 bid book which proposed an upper deck seating 5000 on the east side, then add one on the west side as well. Permanent capacity would then be ~38,700, with lots of room to expand for GC.

RedandWhite

 
Permanent capacity would then be ~38,700, with lots of room to expand for GC.
...I disagree, with an average regular season attendance of 27,000 the stadium would end up looking like Commonwealth or BC Place with vast areas tarped off because of empty seats...
There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact it's all dark.
 


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